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Reina was born from in a highly noble family and became the wife of Duke Heathville. However, rather than happiness, she ultimately died miserably, her husband despised her and even her child was taken away from her. Yet, in her final moments, when Reina finally gave up on everything… she was given a second chance.
“This time, I won’t turn a blind eye to whatever I see!”
Reina summoned her courage and began to live her second life.
“Edhart. I know everything now, and I hate you.”
Reina realizes now how ignorant she had been in the past.
“I’m going to divorce you.”
Even the husband that she once loved.
“Alright.”
Her husband, who she thought had despised her, was crying.
Duchess of the Glass House,
Mamhwaraw name: 유리온실의 공작 부인
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Boo_is_here
Our baby is growing up soo fastt TT_TT
Zero
yay the teenagers have finally learned to use their mouth ^v^ AND EL JUST SAID MAMAAAA >V<
kae
pls dont accept reina
Zero
tea parties are always so “Nobel” like
kae
i hope we can see elle grown up soon, i wanna simp for my precious baby ??
Zero
what’s up with these “fathers” over here each one of them should go to hell except for the ML and how can that duchess just try kill someone’s child can’t she understand the mothers pain? She is a mother herself
Zero
so people can’t see the spirits right? So if the FL is talking to a sprit does it look like she’s talking to herself or something and what about when she pats undine
Zero
those servants are really something huh
Zero
why is this emperor a old hag and not a handsome guy 🙁
Seungho The great ??
Aaa I was patiently waiting for this update, I’m glad the duke trying his hard to build their relationship even though he know (I think he knows that Reina come back from the past) that reina is also from the past. And I’m glad that now Reina can stand up for herself after what happened in her past life. Now I’m just going to wait for the improvement in your relationship with the duke also looking forward to the grown Elle HAHHAHA
Zero
time to hold a funeral for the dear prince^^~
Zero
what a relation they have XD
Zero
progress
Zero
he a cuteee trouble makeeaaa
Zero
hmmm idk he had a tragic past but I can’t ignore the fact that he didn’t even once tried to show he cared for her
Zero
MWHAHAHAHAHAH YASSS GOOOO GUURRLL AND YOU BISHES JUST DIE
Zero
she ain’t really gonna die right?
Zero
I want the butler to be fired 🙂 when the duchess does not show any actions you do not respect her and now when she finally pulled herself together this is how you act? “She has changed” so you mean if she didn’t change you would’ve let those servant give her rotten fruit? What loyalty when you didn’t even learn to respect the wife of your master very good a loyal servant it is 🙂
lucian
Elle is so cute an I’ll protect that child with my life alongsode his lovely parents Reina and Edhar. SOOOOOO CUTE, the use the word COMUNICATION really well
Zero
so is it that…..the guy thinks the FL doesn’t want him so he’s staying away from her and the FL thinks that the ML doesn’t want her…..no way….
Zero
hm very good now I wanna know why in the hell that guy was so cold to her before and now he suddenly changed?
Zero
can I just go stab him with mah knife and let him eat his own finger?
Zero
YAAAAYYYYYYY EEELLLLLLEEEEEEEEE COME FAST AND TAKE YOUR MOTHER OUTTA HER MISSEERRRYYYYY
Zero
oh but the husband looks like the type who makes his wife’s life a misery but secreatly loves her most of these types of manhwa have this story (I Hope this one is counted in those type of manhwas)
I should be sleeping
Her explaining the tea party
*insert “and then I started shooting” meme*
Zero
you know its good when it starts with “when did it go wrong”
Zara is ✨DEAD✨
The water spirit ?
LunaTwT
It’s Nice seeing couples who had a bad relationship in the past being friendly and more couple like and communicating
Gojo Satoru's wifu
The flower dance and the wind song should do that too
?️ Kz Mafuyu?
I’m glad she was able to stand up for herself plus her relationship with her husband is getting better ☺️❤️
SUPERTJH
Glad they are working on it, but so help me if the temple is refusing because she’s “cursed” or it’s due to her father…
Mayonnaise_01
I am crying here.. Is anyone have a tissue? Their family’s past is just so sad.. I hope they live happily for this life.. https://media0.giphy.com/media/26ufjDxZXYB7CM5Qk/giphy-downsized-medium.gif
Andrea DL Lapuz
I cried some of chapters…but overall the story is good! I suggest to read it
?Your Empress?
This so called ladies thinks they’re so much better because they debuted… but in reality they should be a laughing stock.. the duchess didn’t debuted but holds a higher position than them, who had debuted in the society.. makes you wonder what’s even the use of debuting in society..
Caramel smith
Damnnn is that realy her father
I Live 4 Manhwa?
oh yeah? your in my list mr. ML. get ready for my mother’s slippers comin to your faceu
The most simper in the world
i just wanna use the spoiler tag lol
The most simper in the world
she’s so hawts sheet
The most simper in the world
FAWK ITS BEEN A LONG TIME ONIONS WHERE DID YOU GO YOU CAME BACK AT THE WRONG TIMING
B a n a n a
Mautak siya sis
Nnsyrahh
Aaaaa now i understand after i go back reading the Previous chapter?the duke have been locked up in the mansion with elle cause like what elle says “I’ve been thinking my birth mother killed my real mother” (i guess) and he can’t see his mother clearly for the last time before her death, for more details this was the plot in which took a part after the duchess died (sorry if it not correct or false)??
Nnsyrahh
The father being childish, blaming his daughter is the reason why his wife died and that is the choice of his wife who wants to save his baby brother. Who wanted to follow me to dig his father’s grave ?✋?(Sorry for the bad grammar)
Rozah Skizzer
Ok i dont like it the further i read it, art and plot
Christy
What if their child have memories of the past life too, the child is too smart you see?
Bunny
I hope like that??
Christy
I think this is his way of teaching, he’s indifferent to fl because he wanted her to change. Just a guess
Nelly
I’m glad he’s stepping up now to be a better husband and father, however, it just leaves me thinking that he could’ve done this from the beginning…he could’ve help her from the beginning but he chose to neglect her to the point that she died.
I can’t forgive him for that, he abandoned her, took her child and left her to die and he could’ve done something about it!
I won’t forgive him until he makes her father pay for everything he did to her (with blood if possible u.u)
KKBS
I totally respect and understand your disposition!!! :). I hope Edgar does make his Father-in-law pay.
ikikjk
he died already, lost his will to live when confronted by the hatred of his son, id say karma cafe has nothing else to serve the duke on this life.
SUPERTJH
I’m not super convinced that Elle himself is without consciousness of mind…
nina
pls Elle is so cute-
KKBS
———————————–[Reasons why I don’t Hate Edgar in his Second Life]—————————
I know I previously posted a long ass essay, buuuuuuut, here’s some more XD. Just a quick side note. Just because I don’t hate Edgar doesn’t mean I approve of him. The man is still a scummy, dirty caterpillar who still needs time to grow some balls and eventually turn into a beautiful butterfly.
1. It’s because the FL chose to marry him based on her only impression of him in their first encounter and nothing more. She never gave a second thought on her decision to marry him and recklessly asked her father to approve and support their union. She went straight into her marriage without having even a sliver of foresight on what her life would be during her marriage. Despite this, I can’t fully blame her for her foolhardiness because she was thirsty for love and affection. In addition, she saw Edgar as her means for her escape from the hell that she’s been living in. The FL has been physically and emotionally abused ever since her mother’s death.
I sympathize with the FL the way I sympathize with my girlfriends (not the romantic kind) after they got dumped by their trashy boyfriends before the pandemic. I comfort them, talk to them and pay for their drinks, but at the same time I never forget to tell them this line, “I f**king told you that your ex wasn’t worth it, you stupid f**king b**tch”, but in Filipino. They either punch my shoulders or slap my face or both. Afterwards, I just laugh it off while they laugh while crying. When they finally have their fill, I accompany them to their house/apartment and just leave them on their couch with a big bottle of Gatorade and some vitamins on the nearest table and scoot my ass off. Sometimes we just need to wait outside their gate before their angry mom or dad comes out and berates their drunken daughter XD. Hahahahhahaha. At the end of the night, I’m also the loser coz I have to wash the puke off my t-shirt and left with an empty wallet.
2. It could be said that both the FL and ML (mostly the ML) are fault because they never took the time to communicate and understand each other because they never made the opportunity to do so. Recall when both of them admitted that they never understood each other during Elle’s baptism.
3. The ML is earnestly using all the knowledge and experience that he gained in his previous life in order to alter the course of both him and his family’s lives. We see him striving to improve the FL’s living conditions, trying to sincerely understand her feelings and disregarding the Duke’s demands.
4. Little by little, the Edgar is trying to establish a connection with his wife ever since he went back in time. Don’t be impatient, the author is taking hisher time to unload all of the FL’s emotional baggage unto the ML. At this point, the ML is still testing the waters if he could amicably approach the FL without any hostility. I believe this is a good and organic start to mend their broken relationship. The right time for you to be upset is when the author just catalyzes the progression of the couple’s romantic relationship by subjecting them into a life and death situation that just magically extinguishes almost all of the pent-up resentment that the FL has towards the ML. Cough….Cough….. I gave birth to the Tyrant’s child.
5. When you realize that both the FL and ML are victims of the manipulative and deceptive machinations of the FL’s father, you’d both feel sorry for them. They’re not the masters of their own fate during their first lives because it was decided for them by the Duke of Vernoscht. When you compare the couple’s deaths, both of them suffered the same fate and died from loneliness, isolation and regret. I’d wager that despite outliving his wife, the ML felt empty and dead inside since he could neither express nor receive love and affection, whatsoever. A testament to his living death was when he thought that both his wife and son were consumed by madness. He didn’t understand why they acted the way that they did because he could not empathize with their plight. He finally expressed some emotion when he shed tears for his wife after gaining a shred of understanding for her suffering as he watched her relive her miserable life before his eyes.
I think this plot is a clear message from the author that the readers should take the time to thoroughly assess the personality and situation of their partners. Afterwards, we can carefully evaluate ourselves in order to see if we’re emotionally, financially and physically ready and willing to make a lifetime commitment with said partner. I think the author is telling us that it is imperative that we should carefully self-deliberate and self-reflect on our decisions that will greatly and irreversibly affect us in the future despite facing both internal and external pressures.
The lesson that we can extract from this is that settling in with a spouse may not lead you to the freedom and life that you always wanted. Like the FL, marriage may even shackle you to an even worse situation than you were before. I also think that this lesson is very relevant to women today since there are those who became single mothers because of their rash decisions. Personally, I have friends who are now single mothers and I’ve seen how hard it is to raise a child alone. That being said, I cannot pretend to fully understand the hardships that they’re going through.
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sis, you really do be acing writing in ur school
KKBS
I’m actually a guy…. hahahahahaha 🙂 XD
Hazar Yousef
Bro, you really do be acring writing in ur school
F810
Lmao, meanwhile you’re representing the other half of the school. Copy and paste (and still get the spelling wrong). Dw I’m also considered to be with the other half.
Hazar Yousef
Hahaha, I guess I do
Hazar Yousef
Bro, you really do be acring writing in ur school
??????? .?
its ok. no gender matters for the sis squad 😉
L’état, c’est moi - Louis XIV
Its the first I’ve heard of it XD :))) hahahaha!
??????? .?
welcome o member of the sis squad ???
L’état, c’est moi - Louis XIV
I didn’t know that there was a formal welcoming committee. I’m honored! XD ahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha
Sadness
I gave birth to the tyrant child annoys me
A lot
KKBS
It super annoys me tooo :))) XD.
Gojo Satoru's wifu
I dropped it, the story is so inconsistent in their character’s development
dumpling_jennie_22
DUDE!! SAME :DDD
XxLuna MidnightxX
Thank you for this but how the hell did you manage to write that much without losing motivation ??
KKBS
I wrote it with passion and commitment :))) XDDD hahahahahhahaha
Ohoho
If i can only have that kind of motivation to make such a long statement to use to make my essay homeworks, i would ace it lmao.
KKBS
My life motivation are DEADLINES. I’m a chronic procrastinator when I was both a highschool and college student soooooooo I am a veteran in writing looooon essays in quick successions in a limited time XD :)))))) ahahahahahahahahhaha
Ohoho
I admire you for that lmao
Cassiel
Agreed, i have been saying this so much to people cause the characters were meant to be potrayed as realistic and not entirely colorful in the sense of the characters acting black and white since none of them are perfect they had their own reason for what they did.
KKBS
Truth, the author has a way of making us see them as actual, relatable people and not just characters in a story.
Zarrra is ✨DEAD✨
Man you rly know know your stuff. I mean this is funny, on point, relateble to some extent in our lives. Respect
KKBS
I was enamored by the story and related it to my life experience, then voila!! I managed to write a veeeery looooong essay ahahahahahahah XD.
nNNnn
if only i can write my essays like this at school..
utackonia ( i simp for cale)
Wow now that’s too much!,? Honestly after reading the frist line i found out I don’t need to read all of it
Bc i agree whatever it is ??
?Ms. Reader??
Sir i hope you have a good day don’t be stress ????
dumpling_jennie_22
Dude. This is the second time I’ve read one of your essays in A DAY. LIKE, THE PATIENCE!! MY EYE BALLS FEEL LIKE THEY’RE GOING TO POP OUT OF MY SOCKETS. I WEAR GLASSES. Pls. Write one normal comment. XDDD
KKBS
Ok no more essays next time XD. Ahahahahahah
dumpling_jennie_22
tysmmm
KKBS
In the future, if I ever write one anyway just ignore my comment like the plague! ahahahahahahahah XD :)))
dumpling_jennie_22
LMAO IGNORE YOUR COMMENT LIKE THE PLAGUE XDD
Rylle10
bruh. pagawa essay
KKBS
Ayaw ko 🙂 XD ahahahahahahhahahahahahahah! Maganda ka naman gumawa ng essay ah? Naalala kita nung nagdebate tayo sa chapter 22 ng “I gave birth to a tyrant’s child”.
Rylle10
hala.. di ah.. di yun essay opinion ko lang yun.. pero pagawa talaga hahahhaha
KKBS
hahahahahhahahahahahahahaha no. XD :)))))) 🙂
Garudius Cavaleiro
bro … your summary was sensational!
I agree with everything you mentioned.
And if it were to point out something, it would only be the point that, not always a decision made in haste will result in something bad.
It can even lead to many difficulties, but the return can be even more rewarding.
Congratulations on the great analysis and for such excellent sense.
KKBS
I don’t refute this statement ” not always a decision made in haste will result in something bad.” because I think that this is very true. Personally, Iexperienced where my hasty decisions ended well for me. That being said, I have always prided myself on being careful, considerate and rational in terms of making big decisions in life. This is because I always get very anxious whenever I take action without doing so. XD :))))
KKBS
——-[Edgar was a Terrible Father and Husband because He was an Incompetent Duke!!]——-
[A VERY LONG ESSAY WITH HISTORICAL REFERENCES SIMILAR TO THE PLOT]
I know I’m two chapters too late, but I wish to put forward the notion that Edgar (the ML) is a terrible father and husband because he was an incompetent politician and inept sovereign in his previous life. The fragility of his position as a Duke is the result of the following:
1. His ineptitude to firmly secure his position and sufficiently strengthen his power over his servants and vassals after his ascension to lordship. Thus, explains his dependency on the political influence and support of his father-in-law.
2. His failure to wisely assess and definitively determine the loyalty of his subjects.
3. His inability to exert his OWN influence and prestige amongst his peerage as a Duke.
4. His failure to seek out and forge alliances with other nobility who also have disputes with the Duke of Vinoscht.
As a result of his failures, he became a puppet of his father-in-law who forcefully coerced him to become a terrible husband and father to his wife and child, respectively. Some people stated that Edgar could not oppose his father-in-law because of the following reasons:
1. Edgar’s life and his family are threatened by the agents that were planted within his estate by his Father-in-Law.
2. Although they are of the same noble rank, Edgar is obligated to support his father-in-Law because the latter supported the ML in his ascension to seat of the Duchy of Heathville. In addition, the Duke of Vinoscht is far wealthier, more powerful and more influential than the ML. Furthermore, the Duke has the support of the first prince.
I would argue that all of these points are valid deterrents that prevented the ML from taking any action against his father-in-law, however, it doesn’t mean that the ML didn’t have any feasible solutions that could’ve addressed his situation.
Solution to deterrent no. 1
If Edgar feared for his family’s life, then why didn’t he launch an inquisition on his servants and vassals in order to determine their loyalty and purge the spies, assassins and traitors? He has every right to do so on the grounds of protecting his family, upholding his sovereignty and maintaining the security over his territory. Provided that Edgar informs the king prior to the investigation, nobility outside his territory cannot interfere with Edgar’s inquisition since it’s a domestic matter. If the inquisition proceeded, then the Duke of Vinoscht would be less inclined to contact his agents within Edgar’s territory since there is a high risk that their communication would be intercepted and the Duke be implicated with treachery.
Aside from instituting an inquisition, Edgar should’ve also formed an intelligence organization that would inform him of his father-in-law’s every activity so that he could counter any conspiracy against him. A good role model for Edgar is Cosimo I de’ Medici’, First Duke of Florence and the Grand Duke of Tuscany.
HISTORICAL REFERENCE: A Very Simple Summary of how Cosimo I de’ Medici’ protected his family and firmly established and strengthened his power in Florence.
When Cosimo I changed the government of Florence from a republic to a duchy, some of the powerful and influential people of the city disapproved of the transition and wanted the Medici’s dead. Since He was deeply devoted to his family and sincerely loved his first wife, Eleanor of Toledo, daughter of the Spanish Viceroy to Naples. He protected them by any means necessary and did so by:
1. Forming a secret police that kept him well informed of his rival’s movements and purged agents that they sent against him.
2. Hiring professional, foreign soldiers that safeguarded him and his family within their palace and the streets.
3. Familiarizing himself with all of the government labourers and officials that reported within the Uffizi. It was said that he knew the names of everyone who worked there.
4. Conducting an intensive background investigation on all of his civil and military personnel.
5. Restructuring the state’s bureaucracy into an organized and systematic civil service government with agencies that addressed each of the state’s specific needs, thereby firmly establishing his position and strengthening his authority in Florence.
6. Buying the enormous Pitti Palace at the behest of his wife, which allowed them to raise their children outside of the city and away from their rivals. The wealth between Eleanor and Cosimo was so great that she solely purchased the palace from her own money.
7. Building an extensive, private corridor above the streets that linked the Pitti Palace to the government offices (The Uffizi). Cosimo was so determined to build this passageway that he even paid households and shop owners so that the corridor would pass through or cling beside their properties. To this day, you can still see a portion of the corridor that Cosimo built atop the Ponte Vecchio Bridge in Florence, Italy. The evenly spaced windows above the bridge are the corridor’s identifiers. Amazingly, the entire length of the corridor survives to this day making it almost 500 yrs. old.
Throughout Cosimo’s 23 yearlong marriage with Eleanor, the couple had 11 children, 3 of which died during their infancy while 2 succumbed to malaria. None of their children died due to assassination, a common cause of death during the Italian Renaissance. This serves as a testament that the man protected his family by any means necessary. Sadly, Eleanor succumbed to malaria along with her two sons, Giovanni and Garzia. Two years after their deaths, Cosimo was still severely bereaved, so much so that he stepped down from active rulership of Florence in favour of his son, Francesco. Cosimo’ outlived Eleanor by 12 years before he died of a stroke.
Solution to deterrent no. 2
If Edgar’s territorial sovereignty, state authority, political interests and family are threatened by his allies (father-in-law), he has no obligation to honour his allies’ interests. Allegiances are based on mutual benefit, if your personal interests are no longer aligned or even conflicting with that of your ally then you are not beholden to continue your relationship with them. In fact, it can even be in your best interest to forge an alliance with your enemies in order to defeat your previous confederate. A good historical example of a conflict between Dukes is the territorial dispute between Sigismund of the House of Habsburg (Leopoldian Lineage), Duke of Austria (raised to Archduke in 1477) and Charles the Bold of the House of Valois-Burgundy, Duke of Burgundy.
HISTORICAL REFERENCE: A Very Simple Summary of the Burgundian Wars, the fall of the House of Valois-Burgundy and the rise of the House of Habsburg.
In 1469, Sigismund, the Duke of Austria (raised to Archduke in 1477), pawned his territories in Upper Alsace (Eastern part of France) and Breisgau (western part of Germany) to Charles the Bold, the Duke of Burgundy, for 50,000 guilders and the establishment of a mutual alliance between them. He did so in order to pay off his debts and the mercenaries of the Old Swiss Confederation who were ravaging his lands in the pawned territories.
Based from the terms and conditions of their alliance, Sigismund was the junior partner in his alliance with Charles. However, the Duke of Burgundy did not honour his pledge to Sigismund to attack the Swiss Confederation, hence, the latter remained isolated against his enemies. Left without any other options, the Duke of Austria made peace with the Swiss and sought to recover his pledged territories from Charles by buying them back. However, since the Duke of Burgundy pursued an expansionist policy, he never had the intention of returning Alsace and Breisgau.
Despite having an equal rank, the wealth, power and influence of Charles was significantly greater than that of Sigismund since the former’s territories included most of the Low Countries (Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands), parts of western Germany and most of eastern and northern France. All of these lands are abundantly wealthy from extensive farming, herding, forestry and trade. In addition, the Duke of Burgundy limited the lavish expenditures of his court in favour of implementing internal policies that supported the administration, expansion and modernization of his military. He also allocated a portion of his wealth to the establishment of an independent judicial system, a refined administration, and the creation of local estates. As a results of his policies, Charles’s army was considered to be one of the best and most professional and his lands were among the richest in Europe at that time.
In contrast, the Duke of Austria only held the territories of modern day Austria, Slovenia, his pledged lands to Burgundy and small estates in north eastern Italy. The notable resource and industry of these regions are lucrative silver mines and extensive trade with Venice. Contrary to Charles, Sigismund wasted his wealth by indulging in a lavish lifestyle, fighting costly wars and listening to bad financial advice. As a result, Sigismund almost always defaulted on his massive debts and had to pawn or sell some of his lands.
Despite his inferiority in almost every aspect, the Duke of Austria was determined to regain his lost territories. In order to achieve this, he had shed his animosity towards the Swiss Confederation and made an alliance with them. Similar to the Austrians, the Swiss hated the Burgundians because they blocked the northern trade routes from Switzerland proper and attacked allied and Swiss border cities. The coalition also made an alliance with the Duke of the duchies Bar and Lorraine, Rene’ II, whos duchy (in Eastern France) was invaded by the Burgundians. The strength of this alliance was further bolstered when the archnemesis of Charles, the French King, Louis the Prudent (Louis XI), joined the coalition. Louis sought to end Burgundian control in eastern France because the ambitious Charles wanted to end his vassalage to his cousin and forge a kingdom of his own, the Kingdom of Arles. In order to counter this alliance, Charles called upon his southern ally, the Duchess Regent of Savoy, Yolande of Valois, whose territories encompass eastern Provence-Alps (France) and western Piedmont (Italy).
The Burgundian Wars (1474-1477) finally broke out when Sigismund attempted to forcefully regain his pledged territories. Unfortunately for Charles and Yolande, they lost in a series of decisive battles against the Old Swiss Confederation in Hericourt (1474), Planta (1475), Grandson (1476), Morat (1476) and Nancy (1477), despite commanding a more professional army. At Nancy, Charles lost his life at the hands of the Swiss, thus ending the war. With his death, the ruling dynasty of the Duchy of Burgundy, the House of Valois-Burgundy, was effectively extinguished. A poem was written about Charles’ disastrous campaign after his death.
“Charles the Bold lost his goods at Grandson, his bravery at Morat and his blood at Nancy.”
Despite initiating the Alliance with the Old Swiss Confederation, it is worth nothing that Duke Sigismund only joined forces with the Swiss Confederation during the Battle of Hericourt. Austrian participation in the conflict was limited because Charles made peace with Sigismund’s cousin and sovereign, the Holy Roman Emperor, Fredrick III of the House of Habsburg (Albertinian Lineage), after the former’s disastrous siege on the city of Neuss. On the other hand, the Burgundians did not clash with the French since Charles made peace and concessions with King Louis before the French could participate in the conflict.
In the aftermath, the Duchy of Lorraine and Prince Bishoprics of Verdun, Metz, Toul and Liege gained their independence from Burgundy. On the otherhand, the Old Swiss Confederation sold back the lands they conquered in the Duchy of Savoy to Duchess Yolande of Valois. In addition, they also sold their claims to the Duchy of Burgundy to Louis the Prudent. Meanwhile, Louis seized the French fiefs in Northern France (Counties of Artois, Bolougne, Eu, Flanders, Picardy, Ponthieu and Vermandois) and Eastern France (Barony of Iles, Duchy of Burgundy and Counties of Auxerre, Charolois, Nevers, Macon and Rethel) from Burgundy.
Note: Prince Bishoprics are territories that are directly ruled by bishops of the Catholic Church.
Meanwhile, the Holy Roman Emperor and Archduke of Austria, Maximilian I, the successor of Sigismund (nephew) and Frederick III (son,) gained the County of Burgundy and most of the Low Countries through his marriage with Charles’ beloved daughter, Mary of Burgundy (Mary the Rich).. In addition, the pawned territories of Upper Alsace and Breisgau were returned to the Habsburgs. By the right of marriage with Mary, Maximillian had legitimate claims to the French lands that were seized by Louis the Prudent in northern France. Determined to regain his wife’s inheritance, the Austrians fought the French in the War of Burgundian Succession (1477-1482) which ended with the Treaty of Arras. In this treaty, Louis recognized Maximilian as the regent for his son with Mary, Philip the Handsome. In addition, their houses would be united by the marriage of their children, the Archduchess of Austria, Margaret and the Dauphin (crown prince) of France, Charles VIII. Lastly, Austria would give up the County of Burgundy to France as Margaret’s dowry to Charles VIII.
However, after Charles ascended the French throne he married Duchess Anne of Brittany instead of Margaret, thereby nulling the Treaty of Arras. Outraged by this act, Maximilian demanded the French counties of Artois, Burgundy and Charolois from Charles, as well as the safe return of Margaret. Since the French King was already engaged in a war with King Alfonso II of Naples, he had no choice but to accept Emperor Maximilian’s demands. In 1493, the French King formally ceded the disputed territories to the emperor in the Treaty of Senlis. When the division of the Burgundian empire between the Austrians and French was finally settled, about 60 – 70% of Duke Charles the Bold’s former territories belonged to Sigismund’s family, the House of Habsburgs.
If there is any consolation for Charles the Bold, he would’ve been happy to know that his great-grandson Charles V of the House of Habsburg became the Holy Roman Emperor, Archduke of Austria, Count of Burgundy, Sovereign of the Low Countries and the Emperor of the Spanish Empire (5th largest empire in history). During the 16th century, Emperor Charles V was the single most powerful monarch of Europe. My country, the Philippines, took its name from Charles V’s son, Philipp II.
When Edgar ascended the seat of the Dukedom of Heatville, his political allegiance and support from his father-in-law no longer merited any significant benefit other than establishing connections with the nobility who have close ties with the Duke of Vinoscht. Since Edgar knows that his father-in-law is manipulative, deceptive and insane, he should’ve realized that continuing amicable relations with the latter was not in his best interest. If you noticed their relationship, the ML is basically a puppet within his own dukedom.
Edgar should’ve broken his alliance with his father-in-law after he ascended the lordship of Heathville. Like Duke Sigismund of Austria, he should’ve sought to establish political alliances with other nobility and royalty who also have disputes with the Duke of Vinoscht and pursued to strengthen ties with those who already have a history of friendly relations with the Dukedom of Heathville. Meanwhile, in order to break his dependency on his father-in-law’s political support, he should’ve earnestly strove to secure his position as the Duke of Heathville by strengthening his sovereignty over his vassals and territories. Like Duke Charles the Bold, he could achieve this by:
a. Instituting policies and reforms that would increase the wealth and prosperity of his dukedom.
b. Increasing state budget in training, equipping, supplying and modernizing his private army.
c. Establishing political alliances and friendly relations with influential members of the nobility who have no political and economic ties with the Duke of Vinoscht.
d. Creating a surveillance and information network that monitors the activities of the Duke and his allies.
e. Forging and strengthening economic and military policies that improved inter-trade and security between him and his allies.
f. Financially, politically and militarily supporting potential allies who are in direct conflict with the Duke of Vinoscht, a good example of this is the second prince.
Undoubtedly, the combined power, influence and wealth of Edgar’s alliance would inevitably be able to check, deter and diminish the Duke of Vinoscht’s power and influence.
?ねこーいずき?
Boy/Girl- your taking over the comment section? ?
KKBS
I’m soooorrrry XD. I promise this is the last essay for this manhwa. You shall no longer see any loooong essays from me.
Proof Reader Fan
more long essays! you would be a great judge https://media4.giphy.com/media/yLlXBR9OMAYjm/giphy.gif https://media0.giphy.com/media/BYeeRPPXcQS4M/giphy.gif
?ねこーいずき?
It’s okay, but i’m surprise that’s two long ass comment ?
Cassiel
It is great to see someone whom actually is not biased with their statement
KKBS
I thought about writing an objective stance on the argument of whether Edgar was bad husband and/or a duke when I saw the emotional debate in chapter 24. I wanted to weigh in on the debate and settle the matter objectively. This is the result of it and my other essay XD ahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha!
Cassiel
People are much on the subjective but if you actually weigh in their own decisions and actions you would know that all of them are held accountable for the past. Thank you though for the effort i’m so tired of explaining things in a long format that i cant be bothered to write another one.
Garudius Cavaleiro
wow … thanks for the amazing history class.
a complete text with very well punctuated arguments.
I hope to see more of such arguments on such good grounds.
Not something weird and superfluous like “biased”.
KKBS
I don’t know if I’ll get inspired to write another essay with historical references in the future XD. I was inspired to write one in this manhwa because its plot is similar to what I already knew prior, when I was still a history geek during my highschool days XD.
twinx
Your essay is longer than my paper for project study. The nostalgia is real. ? I didn’t read it all to be honest, but you’re always on-point so I’ll blindly believe you.
KKBS
I understand XD :))) Ahahahahahahah!
Aera Akhsa
what the–i’m saving read this for more chapters and here i am with the cliffhanger… TvT
Aera Akhsa
no one will talk about that “the lion king” scene? no one?? aight~
Aera Akhsa
the lil bro is on her side!!! i’m touched… TvT
Aera Akhsa
the father just got so sad and ended up blame his daughter even though it isn’t her fault. she’s also suffering from losing her mother yet her father don’t want to understand >:(
Bunny
I want him to get the girl im rooting for him because at this point I just feel sad for them both
Bunny
Her own dad was behind it all
ValentinesDog
Bestie only realize now that no is a word in the English language that he can use to deny a request?
Rozah Skizzer
She is very reckless
Rozah Skizzer
Oregnant, going around fire and dangerous smoke, she coul kill her baby, what if she gets poisoned by the smoke
Rg111
Don’t ever forgive him, Reina. Whatever reasons he has, he still hurts you. Just let him experience all the things you suffered until his last breath. If you happen to regress again, then that’s good. You’re even now lol.
#imasadist?
OneMoreChapter
Please tell I wasn’t the only one who thought of simba when they lifted El.
Axira
Omg boi finally, took u long enough… Just don’t mess up this time
lucian
awwww dude, you can do it!! you can change!!
Yuri-chan
Ah I’m content with seeing that dumb expression on his face, I forgive him??
Yuri-chan
Ok but hear me out!? Writers should normalize characters not falling inlove with their wife/husband who they were never on good terms with before they died and went back in the past. Like they can learns from each other’s mistake, realize they are not suited for each other, forgive and move on to somebody who is more suited for them?♂️ because if they were never good to you before you died (no matter if y’all hated each other or wasn’t compatible) you don’t deserve to he together now that you or them seem to have “changed”.
Yuri-chan
No matter what the story tries to do to justify his action I really can’t bring myself to like him. Call me bias but there’s something about him and I can’t put my finger on it
Yuri-chan
Sakura is that you?!?? *I’m talking about the diamond on her forehead and the hair colour
Yuri-chan
She is LITERALLY pregnant and y’all are giving her spoiled food?!?!?! Like come ooonnn even if y’all hate her, she is still the duchess and she is pregnant with the Duke’s child at least show some respect gosh!!!
Yuri-chan
Awww no!! cute elle went insane??
Yuri-chan
This is how y’all should’ve been, even you both hated each other y’all should’ve been respectful and nice to each other that’s it. You don’t have to love somebody to respect them. Because as far as the norms for nobles go, they never marry out love but for a sense of politics and responsibility as a noble.
kat
i mean i do think ill be able to forgive him but at the same time im just frustrated because it feels like hes not doing ENOUGH you know like he should stop being a lil bitch and try harder smh
Yukiri
Okaaaaaay you
idiot, more pity drama for you and you’ll be fully forgivenby some readerskekeke, but for the dad sorry not sorry you can rot to hell. That quote “Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.” should be slap to your face back in forth until you realize. What is wrong with your brain. If he’s not gonna be dead in the end of this manhwa imma Isekai on this one.Cassiel
Well, i understand why the duke (father of raina) hated her since she was partly at fault for losing his wife which was her mother. I’m not defending the duke but it is hard to lose someone and the cause of it was your daughter. Also i’m pitying the female lead from the amount of abuse and neglect that she had experience since she lost her mother at the same time her father.
Cassiel
Still kinda hate her for her actions as well since she is partly at fault why elle was taken away and mental illness is not an excuse for the person to not care about their son.
Yukiri
I will apologise but pls enlighten me first, how is it that It was raina’s fault that her mother die?? All I know it was an accident. Her mother protected her brother when the carriage opened and die at that time. So how is it her fault??? Pls enlighten me.
And her mental illness is not an excuse?
but what about the duke, her father, what is his excuse, that he lost his love of his life??! So he will put the blame on a CHILD? when that child was traumatised of an accident, saw her mother died and lost her too.
You said that her action led of taken her child from her, but for a first time mother with an unstable mind, who don’t know how to be a mother. do think she can do a job of mother? Her trauma is that she thought she was cursed. If! If someone ever told her that it’s okay to touch her child she might have taken a first step. But no one did.
So pls enlighten me if I’m wrong. ?
Yukiri
Ps: don’t tell me its because of her beads. If she intentionally drop those. yes it will be her fault. But it was an accident.
on that logic of yours. the mother would be at fault too for a moment think about it,
if the mother lock the door would she die?! as an adult it her responsibility lock the door after all.
Just saying ?
Cassiel
Everyone did what they had to do and they are at fault for the past so i don’t get why people will blame it on a character even if this was meant to be shown as realistic to human beings where everyone has their own reason for their decisions. The mother is at fault since she did not do her responsibility as well as raina when she became a mother so i don’t get why people favor her so much like she’s some saint.
Cassiel
It was partly i didn’t say it was all her own fault (rephrase your statement) she distracted her brother when his brother was gonna go get help which led to her mother dying that made his father angry about the situation (i’m not gonna spoil the whole thing since some people got mad at me for spoiling stuff and i wanted people to enjoy the manwha) All i stated that mental illness is not an excuse for her to neglect her child if you were in the child’s position what would you feel even if the child was left with her? If the child died during at the time where she neglect him and wanted something out of him what would your opinion be? I’m not stating that she will do a great job as a mother if she has an unstable mental health but it was not the child’s fault that she was in that dire situation so why does he have to suffer just cause her mother has traumatic experiences? She wanted to have a child and it was her responsibility then she didn’t fulfill that responsibility as a mother thats why the child was taken away from her. Someone told her to touch the child but because she was caught up with her father’s lies she wasn’t able to touch the child cause in her mind the child would cry.
It is just funny how people favor her since she was also partly at fault for the past she made her own decisions which led to her being in that situation. She made it seem like she is some saint and blame it on everyone else other than her for the child beimg taken away.
Cassiel
Its fine you have your own opinion and i have my own if we don’t agree then thats fine its not like it will be the end of the world. I’m just saying that people should treat every character equally since it can come across as biased
Rylle10
this is sad… we need to forgive him guys… he learned his lesson his making up for his past mistakes… this is just pure sadness
Shai
Wha-? 7 years old?
Shai
Yep, so he basically married her for her wealth. It’s just a bonus for our FL at that time since she taught he was her saviour.
Verose Reinsor
…..im thinking on it………. but i lowkey support the duke now smh
Shai
Why the chapter is too short. ??
dumpling_jennie_22
…I feel like I understand where the duke is coming from… But I still want to know why she was mistreated in her past life…
At least he feels regretful..
Cassiel
You would know later on
Spoiler!
It is related to the death of her mother
dumpling_jennie_22
ooh
Shai
I understand that our FL’s father lost his wife and is grieving about it. But dude, just because your daughter is the only one who is unharmed, did you think that she is solely responsible for the incident? Did you even actually investigate the whole thing before doing irrational things and make our FL’s life miserable as you? No, I think her life is way more miserable since you are actually pulling the strings of everyone around her. As far as I know, it’s common for nobles to plot something against another noble family so it’s a possiblity. I wish the father of the FL (see, his name is not even mentionable) will have a much worse retribution.
OC Defense-Squad
It’s easier to blame his daughter for everything rather than conduct an investigation and possibly realize that it either was an accident or that someone else tampered with the carriage.
YOU'RE DOING GREAT SWEETIE
the song im listening to goes so well with it ………………
Lunatic
Which is…….
YOU'RE DOING GREAT SWEETIE
mess it up by Gracie Abrams
I cried ………..
why aren't 2ds real
F MY EYES ARE SWEATING
why aren't 2ds real
BRO IS HE DETECTIVE CONAN?!
Nnsyrahh
i- Hahahahah i like your comment??
Wafa
Ngl that smile creeped me out too xD
everything¬hing
Soo I have a question. People who know what’s going on please spoil it for me.did the ml actually take in a mistress in the past life or was that just a misunderstanding or smth? And if it was why did he give the child to his previous fiance to raise?
everything¬hing
I don’t like him, we still don’t know why he treated her like that before. So until then I’m gonna hate you, sorry lol
Yunan
The plot is getting so interesting, and this is the first time I can sympathize with an ML that was a villain somehow in his ex-life.
Cassiel
The ml isn’t a villain and no one is even raina’s father since if you put yourself in his shoes he is just badly hurt for what he experienced. We cannot judge someone with what was shown without knowing the thought process on why they did what they did in the past. This was meant to show how human beings are not perfect they make mistakes even if it is less or more they are still at fault for the situation.
why aren't 2ds real
i kinda feel like this is why elle’s father took him away from the mother in the past life?
Athanasia_princess
I can’t say anything about the ML but if he he make our Reina happy then I’m also ok with it. So give it a try??
why aren't 2ds real
el oh el
DIL
My message is pending so i will snd again and if u see it again in here then uk the reason lol
Sp her father is the worst of all and i- i forgave her hubby and i am sry i am really weak so hubby make up to her u idiot i support u bruh lol
RinaIsFeelingIt
Well instead of never forgiving someone I like to see the change and the effort he’s giving and make my decision on those aspects, so yes right now he’s doing a decent job ??
DIL
Yep his pretty gud
SleepySloth
My decision is pending…(only the ML tho, the dad can go rot in hell). I wanna see him put in lots of time and effort to change and protect her..( I think he’s already on the right track)! ?
DIL
Yed i understand your concerns and i also support how you think the same can be said of me but i am weak in heart and if anyone uk is nice i just forgive them lol i should probably be little more careful lol
SleepySloth
It’s always better to be safe than sorry…(or worse, dead)! Always forgiving while believing that they’d change is the most commonly used recipe for how all villainess MCs (who pines after a good-looking but trash guy who uses and later disposes of them) in the reincarnation genre are made~
DIL
Yeah ikr
deuk
same i support hubby too
DIL
He he
Cassiel
Well, yeah but i kinda understand her father on why he made his decisions which led to this.
Wendy Noire
It said he was the one to curse her. He cursed his daughter, killed his wife, and then tried to have his daughter mentally and emotionally tortured until she died.
AkosiShan Sollag
Killed his wife? Please enlighten me here ??
Wendy Noire
It was the curse that he admitted a few chapters ago that he put on the FL that killed his wife, thus her death is his fault.
AkosiShan Sollag
Oh thank u! But why he resent his child? 9
Wendy Noire
No idea
Cassiel
The duchess is not curse she is just mentally unstable (cause of trauma) also he resent his child since the child has some fault for the death of his wife.
(Wendy is stating false information if you read the novel or try to find website discussions you would know better so don’t believe just anyone who does not have enough proof for their claim try to find my claim at novel spoilers there you would see people talking about what happened but it is much better if you read the actual novel)
+ its your choice whether you read it or not
DIL
I also do understand how he feels after his beloved wife died but that doesnt give him the right to be a total jackass like goin after her even after she got married its not right
Shai
Please dun type so fast. You always have many typos and it’s triggering my OCD. ?????? Here, a heart of 3 handsome ML for to the exchange. ❤️❤️❤️
DIL
LoL i am sorry I really am anyways thanks for that ??? 3 for u too hehe
Hotel_Chicken
I’m not forgiving him yet. What has he done so far? Let’s review.
The last chapter shows us that he came back before chapter 4. In chapter 4, the Duchess comes to him and asks for their unborn child to enjoy all the privileges his child should receive, even if the Duke gets a concubine. This is their first meeting in years (for him) and he wants to be a good person. She’s asking for their son to have a bright future. Perfectly reasonable. His response? “What do I get out of it?”
SCREW HIM! His first words to her, not even a hello, it’s, “Let’s negotiate on why I should do this nice thing.” She has to give up her inheritance rights to her father’s diamond mine for this! What else has he done? Sent an incompetent shadow guard who didn’t help her or stop her when she went to a burning village.
Did the Duke decide to immediately fire the staff and replace them? Nope, the Duchess did that. All he has done is build a greenhouse and feed her soup once. What has he done beyond the greenhouse that actually helped her?
He hasn’t taken any visible measures to protect her, like fire the staff before she did. Every ounce of the Duchess’ happiness is through her own actions, not his.
DIL
Well i- nvm u do what u want
lil gremlin
now that I stand by
Aaron
Don’t get angry at me for stating a point, I’m not defending him. He’s not doing most of what you said is because he can’t. As he stands, most of his money and power comes from his wife’s father. So all he can do is small things in acts of defiance. Unless he can find some way to gather power without the imperial family and his enemies finding out.
Hotel_Chicken
I suppose that’s fair. I just don’t understand why he had to be such an ass when he met her for the first time since her death. I don’t see how he could benefit in that situation by immediately trying to negotiate for their child’s happiness. Unless that mine is somehow vital for her continued happiness, then I’m gonna stay sore at him for it.
Cassiel
Agreed at some point he is at fault and should held accountable all of them are should also think about what they did in the past.
IhateMYLifE
Woah i didn’t expect that from what I’ve seen so far Its good that he feels guilt but back then why did he still let all those things happen? They never gave us a clear explanation… I was really hoping for one…? so I could finally make a decision and maybe forgive him
DIL
Idk too he just seemed indifferent to her
IhateMYLifE
Woah i didn’t expect that from what I’ve seen so far Its good that he feels guilt but back then why did he still let all those things happen? They never gave us a clear explanation… I was really hoping for one…? so I could finally make a decision and maybe forgive him
rielle
i know im supposed to sympathize with him, but you deserved it you absolute dumbfuck poltroon. all of those that happened to him is just the repercussion of his actions, not even pitiable.
Cassiel
Biased statement to be honest he has limited power before and the duchess didn’t have any contract on spirits which can protect herself from any harm like she has now. He is not dumb if you were being threaten where there is no guarantee future for your family since anytime the duke (father of raina) can kill them what would you choose? To gamble the lives of people or comply for the safety of them. Raina is also mentally unstable before it just shows why she didn’t touch the child in the early chapters cause she expected something out of the child like what she is now doing before she wanted the child to have the same appearance like her husband but now she wanted him to be the successor. She may have love the child but it is also her fault why she was separated from elle since she was neglecting the baby and just staring at it while it was crying if it were not for the servants elle would have died at that time. Everyone is black and white in this scenario no one is perfect since raina is greedy for affection that she had lost from her family which she found with the duke. Who would expect to like someone whom trap you in the situation where everyday your life is in danger? She has obsessive problems with the duke where instead of actually living her life for herself she still relies on him like some damsel in distress. The duke he is partly at fault for what happened in the past but not entirely so i’m not sure why you’re acting like it is his fault for everything it is fine to have constructive criticism that is your right but atleast use your knowledge instead of being emotion driven by the fact that this manwha have cut some parts. Elle quickly jump into conclusion and hated his father without knowing the full context of what really happened while raina’s father he may have lost his wife but her children also lost their mother and father for him to act towards that to his childrens are inappropriate and it is not right. They had their own reasons for making their own decisions which led to different paths now raina is still have mental problems atleast now she is somewhat sane. The duke is trying his best to risk everything even his own safety for the happiness of his family.
Inngi Pingi
This is longer than my English exam paper
Cassiel
Well, people are so biased with the characters eventhough the story was meant to show that not everyone is good nor bad they had their own reasons for their actions and even if the fault was less or more they should still held accountable for their own actions.
Wendy Noire
There was a scene a few chapters back where her father admitted he was the one who cursed her. He has absolutely no right to do anything to her or be hurt by her mother’s death. Also, do you not understand what trauma is!? Raina has been told her whole life that she’s cursed and brings misfortune to those around her, then as soon as she tries to hold her son he starts crying and her trauma comes out. Maybe the maids were essential for Elle’s survival at that point, but you can’t hold trauma against a person. She never even got to see her son and when she died he had been manipulated to believe SHE was someone dangerous for him, rather than his traumatised grieving mother.
Cassiel
I understand the trauma and abused but it isn’t an excuse for her to neglect her own child
Cassiel
The duke didn’t curse her she was just mentally unstable
Wendy Noire
Literally a few chapters back he was talking with his son, her brother, and her brother said that their father, the Duke, had been the one to curse her. That lead to her being mentally unstable due to the abuse
Cassiel
She is partly at fault and don’t make an excuse for mental illness since there are parents out there whom had mental illness but still didn’t neglect their own child
Cassiel
I have ptsd so i understand it just cause someone has mental illness it doesn’t mean they are not at fault she has obsessive and manipulation tendency. Well, the father has the right to be hurt since she was partly at fault for her mother’s death if you were the one in his position you would know better what that felt like. I’m just unbiased and neutral while you’re being bias towards raina favoring her eventhough she had experience abused and neglect it is still not right that she does it to her son. Her son was taken away for his safety she wasn’t curse she is just mentally unstable that is why she can’t hold her child because it reminded her of her trauma now do you get my point? You’re to emotion driven at the point of protecting your bias eventhough this story was meant to show that not everyone’s story is colorful it is black and white. Not everyone is good or bad they just had their own reasons why they did what they did so stfu if you can’t comprehend the story without knowing the full context.
Garudius Cavaleiro
Oh, now I get it (we get it). It is clear! why didn’t I think of that? (irony)
It is explained why in his perspective a CHILD is somehow to blame for something ridiculous like “teasing the little brother in the cart and resulting in the ‘murder’ of his own mother.”
By any chance in your supposed trauma(I don’t know if this is true or not) did you also have a wife “murdered” by a child who was your flesh and blood along with your wife?(but if it is true, forgive me for the insensitive phrase)
Did you at least try to put yourself in the perspective of the child who was accused of “murdering” his own mother?
I don’t really understand your pursuit with FL. You look a lot like her own father and trying to make it clear that, in fact, FL is indeed a cursed character.
Dude … I’m not saying that you shouldn’t point out that in the first timeline you don’t have any innocents. Because that nobody was, but you just say “so and so is being influenced” and think that this is the only enough argument to support the opinions that are contrary to yours, it just shows that it is your repeated justifications in each post that is contrary to their opinion that they are trying tirelessly to influence the opinion of others.
And as mentioned, it’s already tiring. Please create a better and more grounded argument where your points can be understood in some way.
my english sucks. (googletradutor)
SORRY.
Cassiel
Your statements are far from the trauma that we are talking about (rephrase your statement) the trauma that i’m talking about was the other commenter’s question whether i understand what trauma was we might not have the same traumatic experience but it is not right to put the blame on someone and yes it is true why would i lie about that? It is disrespectful to people who are suffering mental illness. I have pointed myself in every possible situation and it was not right for the father to hurt her but i do get why he was hurt (which he has a right to feel hurt about that situation) then your comment about her father looking like me is straight up rude to say to a person just cause they had an objective mindset about the situation. You don’t have any right to comment how i look like since you don’t know who i am nor do you know what i look like and sweetie you look more like and behave like the father for that very statement. I’m not defending the father all i was saying that he has a right to feel hurt towards his wife’s death and my justisfications may be repeated since people are biased with their statements. I’m just neutral about the story and i hate every character at the same time understand them since they had their own reason for their actions. My statements are well grounded since it was based from the novel, raws and discussions about the story so don’t say that it is not i just don’t wanna spoil everything (ruin the fun) just cause someone didn’t have the same perception as me. I’m not forcing anyone to have the same perception as me since all i was just stating was people are biased towards raina treating her like some saint eventhough she blames her decision on everyone. If you were in the position of her child then that child died what would your opinion be? It was not her child’s fault that she has traumatic experiences so why does the child have to suffer just cause she chose to rely on her husband but when everything failed she blames it on him.
If people don’t agree then thats fine its not like i will cry over some petty perception.
Cassiel
People can have their own perception and its their own choice whether they will still stand with their opinion or not.
Garudius Cavaleiro
About my “statements” that point to the trauma that I thought was what you were referring to. Okay … I’m sorry if I got it wrong and I’m also sorry for doubting or even disdaining about your own situation. this was by no means my intention.
I had put a reference in parentheses apologizing if I had been rude for doubting.
but I shouldn’t have expressed myself that way. So I’m sorry.
Now, on the case of the views of victims and perpetrators, I have never said that I do not understand the father of FL. The same goes for ML and the same goes for FL.
However, if we are to point out the root of this whole situation, I do not see why this responsibility should not be attributed to the only adult existing at the beginning of this whole tragedy. After all, the meaning of maturity comes with the duty to know how to deal with the misfortunes that we human beings will suffer.
think about it, what if FL’s father hadn’t succumbed to the despair of losing his wife and instead of pointing out FL was guilty, he would have cared for her well being?
Or rather, what if he was one of those who went back in time and he regretted not treating his own daughter with affection in the first timeline?
That is the point that you are perhaps trying so hard to make. And I agree with you in that regard.
In the first timeline, no one was innocent. Not even the son of FL. Why did everyone do something unfair to someone. But when we try to find where it all started. Guess where this is going? And it is at this point that you end up making the same mistake when trying to point out the established fact that everyone is to blame for something in the first timeline of story.
When we get to the root of the problem, we will see that the trigger is the death of FL’s mother. When we looked for the cause, it was an accident. Now, who was to blame for this accident?
FL’s father blamed his own daughter. But if I were to point out the “culprits”, I would have at least 4 people and 2 objects as the “culprits”.
The people would be, the leash who guided the carriage, the FL’s own mother, of course FL, and lastly the brother of FL.
The objects, on the other hand, would be the carriage and whatever caused the carriage to become unstable.
Having these 6 “culprits” as a basis. Can we really discern whether this accident was, in fact, directly caused by any of the “culprits”?
The answer is obviously, NO! This was a fatality and no one was to blame for such a fatality to occur.
Therefore, we cannot blame anyone in this group that I mentioned as the initiator of the whole tragedy. They are all victims of this unfortunate accident and this resulted in the death of one of them.
With that, we know that in the epicenter that started all this tragedy there is no initiator, only the trigger. That trigger being the death of FL’s mother.
So who was the initiator of the tragedy? For that matter I could point out a lot of people as well as quite a few actions that led to the accident as culprits.
Some examples of people would be, the father of FL, the person responsible for the maintenance and repair of the carriage, the person who designated the collar, the person who is responsible for the maintenance of the roads and many others.
And the actions that led to the accident are, not checking if there was any problem on the road, not checking if the carriage could have any problems, not checking if the speed at which the driver was driving the carriage was safe and many other reasons.
But which of these initiators was directly to blame for the subsequent tragedies?
I can certainly pinpoint FL’s father as the culprit. It doesn’t matter if he was suffering for his wife’s death. Just as he suffered this loss, their two children were also suffering. And with even more pain. The daughter saw her mother dive to her death to protect her younger brother while she froze in place. The son survived in exchange for the mother’s sacrifice. With such a situation, why did FL’s father feel entitled to blame FL for his wife’s death?
It was this distorted discernment of the father that started all this tragedy between FL, ML and the son of these two.
After so much going around to get to that point, what I want to conclude is that the father of FL, is not a regressor and so little (at least so far) has regretted what he did, does and will still do with FL and therefore , with ML and the grandson himself. And this is where the fact that comments make FL a victim, you dismiss them as “biased”. That is the point for which I tried to get him to rephrase his arguments. I just hope that you understand that in the circumstances regarding what causes all this, it was the inability of the father of FL to control his own emotions that started this whole tragedy. He was supposed to be a healthy adult and as such, he must be responsible for such acts, even though he committed them for emotional destabilization. Anything that happens after the attitudes and choices that the father of FL has chosen to do, will only be echoes of what he himself had started.
I tried to somehow put my points, as well as some points of view of some who see FL as a victim and tried to show that I understand their point recurring to the fact that everyone was wrong in the first timeline. However, in the second and current timeline, only FL and ML are regressors and they have shown that they have regretted the decisions they have made and are trying to change that. Being the father of FL the only one to repeat his same mistakes and consequently becoming the “villain” of this story.
The text was huge. Hahaha
I hope you have the patience to read.
Cassiel
It is fine i’m not gonna be petty over your view about mental illness just be careful next time since people can be harm over insensitive comments.
In regards of the father, i’m not claiming that he is not the iniatiator or perpetrator (roots) of all the things that involve their life since he is at fault for that. He has done things that i’m not fond or condone in any way of form all i’ve stated was that he has the right to feel hurt towards his own wife’s death (which you got that part right)
The female lead issue i’m not dismissing comments about people making her some victim since she is a victim of abuse all i’m stating that people should not treat her like some “saint” and should not look upon what she also did in the past. It is good that she is regressing over what happened and changing like her husband for their own future but in my own opinion or perspective i’m the type to still hate all of the characters equally but still understand their own perspective.
Don’t get me wrong i’m still hating her father since he is the most at fault but i’m also hating all the characters since they also did something in the past. I’m just neutral in terms of hating every character so i don’t understand why people are mad about me hating on the female lead or stating that the father had the right to feel hurt towards his own wife’s death i’m not even claiming that he had the right to hurt his own daughter since that is not my point and he had no right over doing that illegal things (i’m someone who is also studying law in my hometown eventhough it is not my course i’m a victim of abuse so i have to do extensive research about my case)
+ Don’t come at me in regards of hating them it is just my opinion i hope you understand and sorry for being rude at my last comment i was just mad about you stating misleading information about my comment. Anyway, have a nice day 🙂
Cassiel
I hope this answer satisfy you in regards of the comment and thank you for pointing out your opinion. I appreciate your apology so i wish you best in life.
Cassiel
Your english is fine and i’m trying to make people understand my points but it is just becoming repetitive so i’m gonna stop. I will let people think what they wanna think about the character since i have better things to do rather than waste my time repeating the same statements with added information just to satisfy people.
Cassiel
My mother is mentally unstable and she beat me up every single day (eventhough raina didn’t but still the neglect part can be related in my story) when i was a child now i’ll ask you this she isn’t at fault for what she did even if she experience abuse as well? You just sound sooooooo dumb with your statement just correct it since it can be seen insulting and be careful with what you type since it can bite you in the back later on.
Just the tip think before you type your statements are illogical and stupid.
Cassiel
My mother is mentally unstable and she beat me up every single day (eventhough raina didn’t but still the neglect part can be related in my story) when i was a child now i’ll ask you this she isn’t at fault for what she did even if she experience abuse as well? You just sound sooooooo dumb with your statement just correct it since it can be seen insulting and be careful with what you type since it can bite you in the back later on.
Just the tip think before you type your statements are illogical and stupid.
Dura_Jam
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Gen09
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匚卂尺ㄖㄥ丨几乇
Oh dear I’m having mixed emotions here
Take responsibility!! Make her love you again?
Cassiel
He is taking responsibility but i’m not sure on raina though still didn’t like her eventhough she had her reasons she blames him for everything eventhough she is partly at fault as well like what their son did he judge his father without knowing the full context of what really happened.
Wendy Noire
Uhh… What did she do? She wasn’t at fault for anything and is taking matters into her own hands to keep her child. She holds no fault for the past, it’s her father who does, and the Duke has yet to apologise.
Cassiel
Well, you’re wrong if you actually read the novel since there are certain parts that are cut from the manwha and the story is much more clear than what was shown here. She is at fault for losing her child since at that time she was mentally unstable and obsessive towards the male lead due to the kindness that he had shown in the greenhouse. So you can’t say that she isn’t at fault if it weren’t for her obsessive or greediness towards the male lead he would have not married her since she was the one who brought up about the marriage between them and her father used that to his advantage. About elle she is partly at fault at that time since if it weren’t for the servants the child would have died early. All she does is stare at the child and she didn’t even say she loves him all she told the child was he should look like her husband until now she is using her child for her benefit. She wanted him to succeed this time for her survival and she may have love the child but she is irresponsible neglectful mother in the past.
Wendy Noire
She was a traumatised woman who was struggling to deal with her trauma, that doesn’t mean she deserved to have what happened to her and not be allowed to see her child that she does love. She didn’t have the chance to tell Elle that she loved him because he was taken from her. She’s not using her child for her benefit, her child is all that she wants, but she wants Elle to be happy and have a safe, secure future.
Cassiel
Even if she has trauma if the child was left with her and died during that time then what would your opinion be? It is your own assumption that the mother is not responsible for the child even if she may have love the child if the child was not taken at that time would she realize what she is doing? Would she even say she loves elle? She was caught up in her own world where she relies on her husband for everything it was a “wake up call” for her that she was swallowed to her past when the child didn’t do anything but the child was caught up with their bullshit. I didn’t even stated that she deserve it all i was stating was we should be equal in terms of treating every character since they are at fault for their own actions in the past if you still disagree then thats on you its your own opinion then stand by it.
Cassiel
She is at fault and should be held accountable for her actions though it just funny how everyone treats a character more in favor than some other characters which she also has fault in the past but she treats herself like some saint and blame it on everyone else.
Wendy Noire
She was a traumatised woman who was struggling to deal with her trauma, that doesn’t mean she deserved to have what happened to her and not be allowed to see her child that she does love. She didn’t have the chance to tell Elle that she loved him because he was taken from her. She’s not using her child for her benefit, her child is all that she wants, but she wants Elle to be happy and have a safe, secure future.
Pheles
Can we kill the father? He doesn’t need a burial. He can just be thrown out and be fodder for the animals in the wild.
Lucky
She just gave birth, and she’s still glowing, but I wake up and look like trash-
Lucky
I love how the spirit (I think her name in undine?) calls Elle, ‘wiggly’, its so cute!
Lucky
The little blue girl reminded me of ponyo’s little baby sisters
kouren20
So surviving an accident automatically made one a cursed person? Such great logic for a Duke ?
PurplefaceMofuMofu
I can’t (༎ຶ⌑༎ຶ) the fact that she loved Elle unconditionally even at her last moments and he never realized until long after her death, and the Duke realizing all this sh*t!! I SWEAR IF THE FATHER-IN-LAW DONT F*CK OFF AND LET THEM BE HAPPY https://media3.giphy.com/media/1n4iuWZFnTeN6qvdpD/giphy.gif
Bubbleee
I don’t care if there’s no romance, I want mother-son time?
extra character
pls live a happy life with her and your child (╥_╥). And then the FL’s father can kill himself, such an ass（╯°□°）╯︵( .o.)
ang
idk if i’m just an overly emotional person but this chapter and the last 2 made me cry so hard
extra character
all i can say is i truly hate Reina’s father.
Ju
Good manhwa with a mother-son storyline.
The spoiler is about the FL- ML- son relationship around chap 20-23 :
The relationship mother-son before she died isn’t what I thought it would be but it’s a good surprise ! I’m so happy to see that he had always cared for her ! btw even the Duke wanted to cherish her but couldn’t it’s good that they show us that + YESSS HE ALSO GET BACK IN TIME ! bc it would have been absurd otherwise since he change his attitude without the FL doing something rly impactful.
The characters are great even though I wish the FL could be more confident but I guess it’s normal with her background. The ML isn’t really reaching my heart but he’s getting better after his background was unlocked haha.
The art isn’t really my type like the spirit I wish it would have been into human size or smth like that it just feel weird to see a sort of tiny fairy with only one color ? but anyway it’s not bad tho.
You could think it’s similar to “Flower Dance and Wind Sings” but I think (for now chap 23 being the latest update) this story is a bit weak compared to the latter in terms of emotional scene and relationship between the three characters.
For the time being I’ll set this as a 3/5 because at some point I actually got bored but it’s not that bad.
extra character
yes u go queen!!! i cant wait for your interactions with elle! and undine is such a cutieee
Dilch
Oh my God they both returned to the past! Didn’t see that coming ? I hope they can both heal each other’s old scars this time, I don’t want anyone to suffer more ?
November the Evil
Don’t make me cry RN gademneet, I just had my lashes done! ?
Ohoho
You both have now the chance to change everything. Just do the things that you wanted to change from the past. Be the happiest family while I’ll take care of that dammned duke and that dammned bt¢h ok?
YerenicaSimp
The duke is forgiven, have a better life with your family in this life!!
lucian
You can still apologize?…I guess? Idk man, don wanna be in you position
lucian
I’m glad her brother isn’t an a-hole
lucian
I love how Undine is as cute as the other Undine from The Golden Elemtalist
ikikjk
my main man here got a chance for redemption, dont screw it up.
Nelly
I knew it! he returned to the past, that’s why his attitude changed! Ughhh okay sir, I shall give you a chance. YOU BETTER WORK YOUR *SS OFF TO MAKE SURE SHE’S HAPPY THIS TIME AROUND I WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY MISTAKES!
A K V
Not sure but I think this is the first time both ml and fl have traveled back right? We’ve had antagonist and protagonist travel but not the two leads….if not the first, someone hit me up with some titles ?
Aunty Lali
YES SIRRR!!! HE TIME TRAVELED TOO! Another ML looking for forgiveness and actually getting the chance to do so!
ASENA
Lol the Duke turns the hourglass ⌛
Dilch
Pffft-
Wolfstein is Just Passing By
It’s Reina’s shi* father’s fault dude. That scumbag should die miserably. Well a living hell is better than dying in an instant. So he would wish he should die but he cannot. muahahaha.
Though I’m still waiting for divorce. I want to see the reaction if the duke. Will he cry?
P.S. I didn’t read the SPOILERS (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
peachie
lol maybe the son also returned.
( ꈍᴗꈍ)
Bet.
TheLegend
AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! my heart!!!! https://media2.giphy.com/media/iJJ7Q5tzhyU1IwZI3E/giphy.gif
lucian
We, indeed have a lot of feels, stranger and Crowley
Wolfstein is Just Passing By
But I’m waiting for divorce to happen….
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Yuri-chan
It’s obviously never gonna happen?
isobel
This is sad…
Wolfstein is Just Passing By
If maybe someone have a talent/gift to enter in any manhwa, manhua, manga, novels and other form of stories to enter even just 10 seconds to slap all scumbags, grean-tea b**ches, a***ole, just tell us will help you… To slap them…(｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
SUPERTJH
Oh yeah… If only he returned he could simply do better, but since they both did he has to full on redeem himself!
Sienna Maylafaisha
they need to fix the missunderstanding
Rylle10
atleast you’re making effort for redemption… keep up the good work
Rylle10
the fact that they both suffered because of the FL’s father… can’t we just kill him?
Binibini
Who’s cutting onions? Stop please ? my eyes are hurting ????
?Your Empress?
I’m crying… ???
Wolfstein is Just Passing By
If you want to cry for a moment this story is for you… Just kidding… It’s a good story. This story will teach you how to move on and love yourself first before others.
Don’t mind me, I’m just passing by..
♪～(´ε｀ )
Just__me ?
I’m very thankful for the male lead’s point of view. I’m not crying ?
Rue
Yess!! It’s very rare to see thei pov’s.
(༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ)
Dilch
I am though ?
Jem ?
C O M M U N I C A T E
tHis sOMe Good TEa..
Damn this shit hurts, on another level.. Tho i hope things would turn for the better from here on.
hi
Kill the Father first.
Drawwaaa
This is the first manhwa I’ve seen that the both male and female lead have returned to the past ????
Illuk
EMPEROR REVERSES TIME is a gooooood one
Hazar Yousef
WHAT?1 do they both go back in time in that one?
minnie
I Raised My Childhood Friend as a Tyrant too
AkosiShan Sollag
Hmm.. can u tell their name plz?
Aera Akhsa
u mean the fl and ml? if yes, it’s viche and jade
Lunatic
That was sad
Levi Angerman(agement)
Sad but Anyways
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LOvE her as much as you can, Make her happiest wife,past is past now love her that long last [while we are forgiving the Emperor from” The Emperor Reverses time” why can’t we forgive this duke ?]( mann this chap hurts)
Cassiel
Truuueeee it just hurts on another level
Chibikaneki
I agree bestie. I forgive him too.
?Your Empress?
Truuuuueee
mochi
i agree, he aknowledged his mistake and is trying his best to fix it, what more do we need?
IAmABlackCat
I wish they both have a happy life so on and so forth
dumpling_jennie_22
I dropped that one- :O
I like cute things
Yeah its not entirely his fault anyway, he just want to protect them.
Theheck?
A true understanding is What we needed,A trueTruth behind Those selfish acts and the Actions You must know and The Things You never See and things You never knew,You seek from what you didnt knew before,So now,I like it.
hi
Look its not entirely your fault but you’re still in the wrong. If you want to be forgiven then kill the father.
Yuri-chan
Because not only did their selfish action destroyed each other, it destroyed my precious elle??waaaaaa!!!
Yuri-chan
Because not only did their selfish action destroyed each other, it destroyed my precious elle??waaaaaa!!!
Sophia Ayesha Fidel Miguel
i dont know what feelings i have now….i do not FVCKING know if im angry i do not know if i feel sad
Sophia Ayesha Fidel Miguel
i have a very big big feeling his husband return to time because he said “it has begun” so what the hell is he talking about its begun?
Sophia Ayesha Fidel Miguel
is it just me? i realy hate a ML who hate her wife in pass and then if her wife go back in time he will start to love her wife (Example: the abandoned empress) cuz its fvcking piss me off ?but im still reading it cuz its interestinggg
Yuri-chan
Ikr! Y’all hated each other no need to kiss kiss fall inlove now! Writers should normalize them forgiving each then move on gosh!! They don’t need to be together in a next life just because one them “changed” and realize they love each other.
Sophia Ayesha Fidel Miguel
Ikr i want the ML to suffer that her wife don’t have feelings for her
Binibini
You should have been braver
Binibini
So because of that effi’n condition… You really let her live that kind of abandoned life?!!
Ziay
YOOO HE THE AVATAR MASTER OF ALL FOUR ELEMENTS!!!
Binibini
Happy mother’s day ??
Derp
I know why she refused it’s because of the dress it’s too tight to dance in ofc
乁( •_• )ㄏ
Derp
Wait the dad is blaming her but maybe it the mother wouldn’t have died if u were on the carriage as well hmmmmmmmmm
k dork ヾ(•ω•`)o
Grrrr the dad is a curse idk why that woman decided to marry him see how miserable he makes your own daughter to feel ? if I was his wife I would definitely divorce him
Hailey
Fun fact the name “reina” means queen in spanish..She rlly is a Queen ..reading this is making my heart ache I hope they become a happy family!and live the life that they’d deserve ?
k dork ヾ(•ω•`)o
I mean the dad dint have to make a huge fuss as his wife was protecting her child and again she was a frigging child
LadyLeblanc
Damn her father is so messed up as to ruin her life instead of just banishing her out of his sight. Like what kind of effed up parent is that
?Your Empress?
Sheeet why am I crying.?
baedou
what if the ML turned back time or something idk-
Cralice
UNDINEEEE your time to shine gurly (at least i think and hope so ^^)
Cralice
wait sooo this is her past????
Cralice
omggg i love how a lot of waterspirits are called undine
Wishly願わくば
… No..
Aunty Lali
The hell… he is so petty for nothing.
SerialEater
It is quite funny that some people are emotional driven and biased about their statement without knowing the whole situation. The author intended it to have the characters to be somewhat realistic since people made decisions that can be selfish but none of them are good nor bad. They have their own reasoning on why they did what they did in the past.
Here is some example: There was a story about robinhood where he stole from the rich people to give it to the poor. Is he a villain or some hero?
He isn’t either since he did what he had to do as well as the duke. I’m not sure why some parts where cut or if it will ever be mention on the manwha but the female lead did selfish deeds but that does not mean she is good nor bad. We shouldn’t really ridiculed someone just cause they made selfish decisions since neither of the people here are perfect and people make mistakes.
If the duke was a girl then the readers wouldn’t ridiculed the duke as much just saying that people are fighting for equality yet there judgement are not fair.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t express your anger on the duke since he is partly at fault for the past but he shouldn’t take all the blame as well since everyone on the past did something as well that affected them. They should be held accountable for their actions even if it was less or more at fault in that situation.
minnie
Another manhwa to cry to after A stepmother Marchein ?
Proof Reader Fan
Oh my god, we have gallahan corner, testheon corner, now we have cute baby el corner coming!
Aunty Lali
What’s wrong with him?! Baby boo don’t cry~ you’re mother’s there, and her pack of spirit too!
Aunty Lali
Sitting firm girl…
Every time the duke says ✨wife✨ all sparkly to her, I can’t help but feel weirded out…
Aunty Lali
Eheheh new dress~!
Aunty Lali
Bruh, miss girl needs to learn about boundaries.
Aunty Lali
So CUUUUUUTTTEEEE!!!
I’m calling him wiggly too~!
Aunty Lali
If she was a firefighter, she would’ve gotten promoted to the highest rank by now. Those ungrateful bastards deserve nothings but fire.
Aunty Lali
“ShE’s CuRsEd~!”
From what occasion? That one time her mother jumped out a moving carriage to save her brother and died? Leaving the dukedom duchessless and the only heir crippled. If anything, it’s the brother who is cursed, he is the one who was sitting on the duchess’s lap, he is the one who fell out, causing the death of the duchess. How in any way is it the person who was safe’s fault? She was clearly the one who was able to avoid the near death of herself or those around her. She did nothing to cause anything.
♡あかり♡
BOI it wasnt like your fault all alone it was the DAMN FATHER K I L L H I M
♡あかり♡
BOI it wasnt like your fault all alone it was the DAMN FATHER K I L L H I M
♡あかり♡
I WANT TO K I L L THE FATHER
Aunty Lali
A noble would have no power if there isn’t people supporting them, specifically commoners. Sure, gaining influence through nobles is fine, but is less effective. Using the influence of commoners is better to gain power in a kingdom/empire, so they might want to shut up. Revolution is a word for a reason~!
Dilch
What is wrong with Reina’s father? Curse? You need to leave the child unattended?! Don’t make up nonsense as you please, if you’re mental get treated, if you can’t bear to live after losing your wife go die for all I care. Not only tormenting Reina but also messing with her husband to make her life even more miserable?! You want to ‘leave the child unattended’ but doing all kind of dirty stuff behind her back. If you can’t be bothered to care for her then don’t bother to torment her either smh worthless trash
Axira
Dude, you’re a DUKE and you don’t even have power to protect your family and yourself?? That’s just pathetic.
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Also, what’s the matter with her father?? Cause in the first chapter she said she was raised in happy family with lots of love (even the panel where her parents were holding her hands) until the accident. Like what the hell, how could he change his behavior to 180 degrees opposite?? Is he mental or just had a great camouflage all this time??
ASENA
The past hasn’t been brought to full light yet as to why her father is trying to make her miserable. And yes he doesn’t have the power to protect his family cause he’s being blackmailed by her father from the start who is one of the most powerful people in the kingdom. There are even king’s and crown prince’s in some other manwha’s which go through the same issues cause their hands are tied.
Analist
Her father deliberately planted people close to her just so that he can have her killed if the Duke does anything against him/doesn’t fall in line with what he wants. No matter what their ranks are, if the dad has a knife to his wife and son’s throat there isn’t much anyone can do except maybe the royal family themselves….and they clearly don’t like the ml either.
Eskhan
*sob *sob…. Now my favor level for him is increasing… I hated him from start but it is decreasing slowly….
Axira
Whatever was the case then, I don’t like him
Axira
What, did he travel back in time too
ASENA
The water bird looked so prettay
Dilch
What is wrong with Reina’s father? Curse? You need to leave the child unattended?! Don’t make up nonsense as you please, if you’re mental get treated, if you can’t bear to live after losing your wife go die for all I care! Not only tormenting Reina but also messing with her husband to make her life even more miserable?! You want to ‘leave the child unattended’ but doing all kind of dirty stuff behind her back. If you can’t be bothered to care for her then don’t bother to torment her either smh worthless trash
ASENA
Damn if I was a bystander there and saw the spirit use her power i would think the Duchess broke her water or something ?
ASENA
I understand that you’re doing it for the baby’s wellbeing and to raise him to be a strong heir but if not touch then atleast let her see her son everyday. Like they can have meals together and stuff.
Also it’s so fishy that the child cried everytime when the mother tried to touch him.
AkosiShan Sollag
U r evil father.. how come u want ur child to suffer? ??
SerialEater
Spoiler!
He hated raina due to the accident that happened years ago which involve their mother.
SerialEater
Spoiler!
He hated raina due to the accident that happened years ago which involve their mother.
AkosiShan Sollag
I know.. but its not her fault! ?
AkosiShan Sollag
Duke! I falling now! ??
AkosiShan Sollag
I feel bad for the duke ?
Yukiri
What a trash father you have there! And sorry I still don’t like you for reina.
AkosiShan Sollag
Its awkward.. ?
AkosiShan Sollag
Why her really hate her?
AkosiShan Sollag
“That child was born is ur child”
What his mean?
Yunan
Ah i mean… wow…look at that father…this is 1st time that i wanna see a character dead so much…
Yunan
“My real mother killed my birth mother”
can someone explain this to me ?
Real mother and birth mother shouldn’t be same?
The birth mother is reina, so who the hell is the real mother ?
Is it some kind of mistranslation?
Rue
Ik im kinda confused too
Solstice
yea im confused too..
SerialEater
The real mother was the mistress while the birth mother was raina. He thought the mistress was ian’s real mother maybe thats why the translation was real mother i hope it helps you.
SerialEater
The real mother was the mistress while the birth mother was raina. He thought the mistress was ian’s real mother maybe thats why the translation was real mother i hope it helps you.
2D simp
You are not the root of the problem but YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM you just watched your wife became miserable, you just stood there while someone is taking her place, you did nothing while her father is destroying every bits of her, you did not protect her but I hope you’ll redeem yourself and her father is nothing but a spiteful piece of trash who blamed her daughter for the death of his wife even though it has nothing to do with her, I hope he will have a very slow painful death
SerialEater
If he didn’t do it then she would have died earlier and he didn’t have any choice what would you do if you were in that position?
Kulcipher
The most annoying thing is how melodramatic he’s being.
Lunatic
?TRASH ? That all i gotta say
SerialEater
Well, everyone in the story has their reasons why they did what they did so they aren’t trash but rather a human being who made mistakes. Its really biased to think that way just cause the manwha cut some parts of the story dunno why
Rue
I’m having mixed feelings THIS IS TOO PAINFUL AAAAAAAA ?????
The duke is trying to protect reina and elle but didn’t communicate w/ her and trynna do it by himself. I can’t really say the duke is not at fault but he should’ve been more against her father. And his way to ‘protect’ is wrong.
Anyways at least he’s trying to fix it right??? By turning back time (i kinda hope elle remember past life thoo so it’ll be interesting and maybe understand everything better idk) so that’s a plus for me to the duke
Off topic but ELLE IS SO FINE WHAT!?!?! LIKE LOOK AT HIS HAIR
Rye
I can’t stop crying at how much Reina suffered. She doesn’t even deserve all that hate from her father. The father just keeps on ruining his child’s life, like bro, just let her be. She already suffered so much when she was growing up.
SerialEater
Well, it was partly her fault as well since she did something years ago which made her father hate her
Garudius Cavaleiro
Really?? Bro … are you really blaming her for what happened in the carriage ???
I will not go into the merit or demerit of “who is to blame for” in the events of the first timeline. But, man, you try to use what happened in the carriage as a vector to blame FL and justify her father’s madness, it makes you as crazy as he and his own argument becomes invalid in my opinion.
Blaming an event that happened by chance is the same as blaming fate for making it possible, that is, completely irrational. I tried to understand his fervent act of protecting the flaws of FL’s husband and I even agree on many points. But using justifications that redirect his guilt to FL is nothing different from what FL’s father is doing to justify his crazy things to his own daughter and son-in-law. This is my point of view on this.
Anyway … the madness of the father of FL is in fact the biggest culprit of all this and as for the others, they are all victims and FL being the one that was most affected by this madness of his.And this factor makes her the character with the greatest focus on the affection of the majority that accompanies the story.
Sorry for my English. It is not my native language and I used the google translator to help me.
Jessica Deol
I’M UGLY CRYINGGGG OMG… HE LOVED HER BUT COULDN’T DO ANYTHING FOR HER :'(
Also for the people who are saying that he’s trash,, he isn’t, at least he’s wayyy better than the other husband’s out there who just ignore the wife just because they don’t like her but he only did that because he knew that was the only way for her and his people cuz the father of the fl keys killing them. IT’S THE FATHER WHICH IS TRASH, NOT THE ML
https://media3.giphy.com/media/TW8Ma1a8ZsZ8I/giphy.gif
PurplefaceMofuMofu
Ughhh I feel bad for himmmm even if a part of me wants to be mad I can understand that he was an idiot wit the emotional understanding of a toaster that powerless to do anything wit some many enemies trapping him in a corner…
ASENA
Exactly ? a toaster
PurplefaceMofuMofu
Yo wtf, he better have not neglected tf outta his wife just for political gain from human garbage cuz ima flip a table if he did
SerialEater
It wasn’t mention that raina did something selfish as well and she wasn’t a great mother even if she love the child.
SerialEater
It wasn’t mention that raina did something selfish as well and she wasn’t a great mother even if she love the child.
SerialEater
He didn’t want to neglect her it wasn’t mention in this chapter but if he didn’t marry her the father of raina would support his brother in which he was an arrogant brat. The battle of succession was fair at first between the two brothers but if the father of raina got involve then the battle would be unfair on one side for all i know if you lose the battle of succession you would be look upon or condemn by the capital.
Chami
yes!! LIVE FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILD- FORGET EVERYONE ELSE
Shizue Tempest
Aight I’mma read the LN
Shizue Tempest
Aight I’mma read the LN
Shizue Tempest
Aight I’mma read the LN
SerialEater
Thats a great idea atleast you will have a view on raina doing things as well
Chami
get that thing that calls himself a “father” outta here man
Shizue Tempest
Me after reading this
*attempts to make a contract with spirits
Also me
*accidentally became a vessel for demons
PurplefaceMofuMofu
Hmmmm I really wanna know why he decided to let some two-faced b*tch raise his son in the past ? until then I will deem him as Level: Idiot until further notice ✨?
Shizue Tempest
Bruhhhhh the black haired woman looked like the FL in crows like shiny things
It's alrigt
If the author wants him to bebmale lead then why is he making readers hate him so much
I don’t think anybody wants the lady to forgive him
SerialEater
The author did something new and that was not in the taste of people which i would say bold. If people hate him then they should hate raina as well since she did selfish deeds which was not mention just to make him look bad i don’t know if it will ever be mention in the manwha
?Your Empress?
Girl I see you mostly in reply section..
Cassiel
Anyway, i have seen you too
Cassiel
Anyway, i have seen you too
Cassiel
Yeah since i’m an avid reader for isekai or historical manwha
Cassiel
I’m just passionate with something i’m enjoying
SerialEater
Biased statement
Nelly
but in past chapters she said that the Duke wielded so much power only less to the imperial family…why didn’t he…killed her father? or at least get rid of his influence?? He could’ve done something he has the means…why did he just…let it happen????
Saumiamyo
Oh come on, raina/reina was just locked up all time it was from learning the hierarchy that she thought that he was just second to the imperial family.. but I m rather thinking how much pain he suffered.. you may all be blaming him but there are circumstances which cannot be avoided.. and more so he didn’t love her at the time when that offer was made but still vinosheet duke made the circumstances like that.. or will you really want to let go of your territory power and all that you worked hard for just like that?
Trust me, he had regrets he always wanted to be with her, even in this chapter it was shown that the Duke vinosheet set up people with her so could kill her anytime, and that is why he (ml) didn’t go to see her, yes there were choices he could have made, but wasn’t he young himself?
Please try to understand
Rue
Omg i really like the way ur thinking
AkosiShan Sollag
Can u tell me why her father really hate her? I know bcoz of her mother.. but what da pak?
Saumiamyo
Well we can say he is just a maniac.. but why not take it more logically?
Don’t you think in every romance manhua, the ml and fl are like they can’t live without each other, but what if the other person before their very age? Then what? Don’t you think they become no less than a psycho considering how much they loved them?
Well as far as I remember they fell from the carriage, where there were three people inside the carriage fl’s mother, fl’s brother and the fl..
It was somewhat a scene like they’re going somewhere because of the fl (maybe it was her birthday? I don’t really remember forgive me and correct me if I’m wrong)
Well so now carriage was shaking and fl had something in her hand (doll maybe), it fell, fl’s brother tries to catch it, mother try to catch her son and the mother dies in the end.. (now now this scene literally had no texts and it was all just pictures, so, I saw it like that)
So maybe fl took the blame for her brother or he just hate her cause they’re going there due to fl OR he just solely doesn’t wanna blame his son(the next in line)
However you take it, let’s see in further chapters as it will probably be explained.
AkosiShan Sollag
But that accident! Its not her fault though! Yes i know the father is still grief for losing his wife. But what the.. why he not think what will his wife will feel if she know that her husband hated(or abused) her daughter.. ugh!!! ? I really cant accept his reason or logic..
Saumiamyo
Yeah maybe even this much time was not enough(the previous life) as reina just went with the flow right? It’s not like she took a step against it.. well you know until someone takes a step against us we just assume that we’re right(not all cases, but most)
Even in WW1 and WW2 even till the the end many didn’t understand their mistakes and the sufferage of other people.. they just ended up dying and with the new generations new beliefs were made.
Saumiamyo
Yeah maybe even this much time was not enough(the previous life) as reina just went with the flow right? It’s not like she took a step against it.. well you know until someone takes a step against us we just assume that we’re right(not all cases, but most)
Even in WW1 and WW2 even till the the end many didn’t understand their mistakes and the sufferage of other people.. they just ended up dying and with the new generations new beliefs were made.
Saumiamyo
Yeah maybe even this much time was not enough(the previous life) as reina just went with the flow right? It’s not like she took a step against it.. well you know until someone takes a step against us we just assume that we’re right(not all cases, but most)
Even in WW1 and WW2 even till the the end many didn’t understand their mistakes and the sufferage of other people.. they just ended up dying and with the new generations new beliefs were made.
SerialEater
Raina for the many times i have mention it did selfish deeds as well so they are both in the fault for their actions it wasn’t mention in the manwha dunno why
Saumiamyo
Yes you’re right.
SerialEater
He didn’t have the power as well as the duke and it is hard to bring down that power even if he tried there is no guarantee that the duke will not kill him and his family think about that as well
All villainess are my queen
I guess u didn’t understand when a person is first handed threatened with someone’s life.. and he is the one who made it possible to get somewhere and also having your own trauma.. not everything is black and white.. I can’t ask you to not hate him as the pain of her is bigger and much worst.. but I still think it’s better to be a little on the grey side for him then just hate him..
Lovely Friendo
Yeah I understand having a life being threatened against you but there are better ways to handle it. There’s a reason the saying ‘don’t negotiate with terrorists’ exists. The book states that he’s an intelligent dude, yet he couldn’t purge everyone while he simply kept his son by his side at all times? Yeah he’ll come off as paranoid but it doesn’t really matter if someone is in danger.
All villainess are my queen
Frankly.. I didn’t see that far.. yes you are right.. but.. that’s just how I felt.. while trying to understand them
SerialEater
He was intelligent indeed but he has limited power and he is not as powerful as raina’s father. There is no guarantee that if he did something that can bring down the duke that his family would be safe and there is a high probability that he might fail. All his hardwork on protecting everyone will come to ruin and die.
ASENA
Well in this case the terrorists are the same people who rule his country and are more powerful than him. So he’s in an even worse position and calling the police isn’t even an option. And his son was too young and showed him the past when he turned 15. It takes time to learn and gain control over ones powers and by that time his mother was already dead. Hence the Duke turned back time.
SerialEater
She did selfish deeds as well but it wasn’t mention on the manwha so its black and white neither of them are good or bad
All villainess are my queen
I have not read the novel.. but if that’s the case…Then There are more reasons why.. we should be a little more neutral then just hate. But then again that is my opinion.
ASENA
I dislike how half the people are treating the Duke like a criminal and not giving him a chance even tho the whole past isn’t even brought to light yet. It’s not like he actively tried to make his wife miserable and tried his best to keep her safe. Even tho him caring about his wife and son is what made him even more easy to manipulate by her father. He is actually a good person who got stuck in a bad situation due to his own desperation and powerlessness in the moment.
“I just want the weak, who do get swept along with the flow, be considered human too” -annie leonhart
All villainess are my queen
that’s what I was trying to say.. but seems like I chose wrong words
Drawwaaa
Sometimes life forces us humans to be who we do not want to be
PurplefaceMofuMofu
Was lowkey under the impression that the brother hated the MC too… nowww I’m confusion
Shizue Tempest
Same tho I hope the brother really didn’t blame her like their shitty father did
Henso
Ohhhhh!! so that’s what happened I’m a bit confused in the novel thankfully the manhwa helps me understand their situation
Henso
A father who only wants power sigh!! they’re no change to them
SerialEater
The father has his reasons on why he did that i’m not saying his actions are good either he is just a human being.
Henso
Oh no you misunderstood its fl father that I’m talking about but yeah ml too
Chieno
Yeah, dogsh** human, no matter what, you are a duke as well, you had the power to protect her and you didn’t even try.
SerialEater
He didn’t have the power have you really read it? Another biased annoying person who only hated him and blame him for everything. I’m defending him since they are both at fault raina also did selfish deeds for her desires and satisfaction. The father of raina is more powerful than him since he is the second most powerful in that kingdom which the father can kill him and his family at any time. Think about it and not just use your hands to type some biased rant.
Chieno
I hate both of them, no redemption whatasoever will make me feel pity for the duke.
SerialEater
Raina did selfish deeds as well since she fell inlove with him due to him saying that she should live for herself instead of taking his advice she wanted to wrap him around her for her satisfaction and desires. If it weren’t for her the battle of succession would be fair but instead she told her father about him which led to her father threatening the male lead. If he didn’t choose to win then he will be condemn on the capital or look upon as someone useless than a bug. His brother is an arrogant brat that would probably make his life miserable due to the greediness of becoming powerful. Raina is also not a great mother since all she want for her son to look like ian until now she kept on claiming that ian look like the male lead she didn’t even told her son that she love him on her previous life due to her obsessiong over the male lead’s affection. I don’t know if it will ever be mention but here are the reasons why i don’t hate them both nor think in unbiased way they both had fault for their past life which if it weren’t for their selfishness then their life would have been better.
SerialEater
Biased as well
SUPERTJH
From what I understand it wasn’t ENTIRELY his fault, but he kind of just went with that flow without much change or redemption.
SUPERTJH
From what I understand it wasn’t ENTIRELY his fault, but he kind of just went with that flow without much change or redemption.
Upset
Yeah. I’m so dismayed knowing that he did nothing but watch and go with the flow. F*ck ’em all
SerialEater
Dude he has no choice if he didn’t comply then he would be killed and his family would have been killed as well
Axira
Well, it’s still pathetic that as a DUKE he doesn’t even have power to protect his family
ASENA
Ofc he doesn’t have power because he was able to become the Duke in the first place due to her scheming father’s support who just wanted to use him. And if he didn’t comply with her father’s requests her father would’ve killed both him, her and the child in her womb.
SerialEater
What do you mean pathetic? Are you even thinking about your statement you are relying so much on your emotions which make your thoughts illogical. If you were in his shoes where he does not have any choice and he has less power than raina’s father then what would you do? He became the duke because of the support that he had from raina’s father.
Axira
So what, was he born yesterday to not have even an ounce of awareness what being a high ranked (on of the highest ranked in that story BTW) noble means? And yes, IT IS pathetic because his whole life he was jus being passive until the point it was to late. And after that he still was passive. He didn’t do ANYTHING even when his own brother humiliated him – this is just pure self-disrespect. When situation got really dark he just went with it without giving it much thought (especially about Raina but it’s not the point) and let it be, just hoping it won’t get worse. So he did absolutely NOTHING about it and, guess what, it TURNED EVEN WORSE. It got worse to the point his CHILD was endangered. And how did it end? Horribly (what a surprise). So yes, my statement remains unchanged, this is just pathetic. Don’t tell me he didn’t have a choice, cause there’s always a choice. And he made it. He didn’t even try, he simply chose not to do anything.
?Your Empress?
What could he do in that situation.? If he go see her, one snap of her father’s finger she’ll die. Would he risk it.?
SerialEater
Think about it logically and not just with your emotions. He made the choice because he have to do what he have to do if he didn’t remain passive what would happened? There is no guarantee probability that he would suceed if he planned to bring down her father or go against him since either he choose to be passive for his family’s safety or he goes down along with everyone.
SerialEater
Think about it logically and not just with your emotions. He made the choice because he have to do what he have to do if he didn’t remain passive what would happened? There is no guarantee probability that he would suceed if he planned to bring down her father or go against him since either he choose to be passive for his family’s safety or he goes down along with everyone.
SerialEater
It wasn’t pathetic since he did that to save his family you’re just unreasonable and emotion driven that you cannot think logically if your opinion still stands then thats on you
Cassiel
He has no chance of winning and he was trapped in that situation but if he did go back to the past then he would stand a chance of knowing the future that can help him but in that situation he has no choice but to comply
SerialEater
It was really biased and unreasonable to think that way sorry but you’re the most annoying person in here (like some karen who just complains)
This is my opinion and if you get butthurt over it then thats your problem not mine.
Shai
What’s up Karen?
?Your Empress?
If I remember it correctly the FL’s father is also a DUKE, they may have the same title, but great difference in power.
IhateMYLifE
You could say it is his fault but also isn’t at the same time this whole thing is complicated about his feelings and everything
SUPERTJH
Father is truly awful, and now we know a bit more as to why he knows the past. His heartbroken son forced him to watch how she lived in misery.
SerialEater
Atleast, i have found someone who isn’t biased just cause there are certain parts that were not mention on the manwha.
Theheck?
?ikr?
Theheck?
We get that a lot,The ones who suffered is the only ones who know Misery,for it to know,They say,Actions are better Than words,its not easy to describe through words but rather,express it and feel it of how it really feels like.
IAmABlackCat
Though his point of view is well played out there’s no way this should be enough to forgive him….
Fin
Ikr,unforgivable
SerialEater
Okay thats a great point but raina also did selfish deeds which were not mention dunno why
ASENA
What I don’t get is that a lot of FL’s who get reincarnated in manwha’s are the same as the duke. Like they’re powerless in their first life and get manipulated by someone and end up not being able to save the ones they love then try to do everything right in the next life to save them and take revenge but no one bats an eye or outright blames them even if it’s their own stupidity that got them in the whole mess but people have no problem calling out the Duke even when they don’t know the whole story. When FL does it it’s okay but when a ML does he’s still unforgivable? Like some readers don’t even allow the ML’s to have a personality and faults of their own like they exist solely for the purpose of helping FL and showering her with love all the time and being nice but if they aren’t able to do that for very valid reasons they get hated.
ASENA
What I don’t get is that a lot of FL’s who get reincarnated in manwha’s are the same as the duke. Like they’re powerless in their first life and get manipulated by someone and end up not being able to save the ones they love then try to do everything right in the next life to save them and take revenge but no one bats an eye or outright blames them even if it’s their own stupidity that got them in the whole mess but people have no problem calling out the Duke even when they don’t know the whole story. When FL does it it’s okay but when a ML does he’s still unforgivable? Like some readers don’t even allow the ML’s to have a personality and faults of their own like they exist solely for the purpose of helping FL and showering her with love all the time and being nice but if they aren’t able to do that for very valid reasons they get hated.
SerialEater
True they are emotional driven and biased just cause someone decide something that can be selfish but that does not mean they are good nor bad.
Sutthida Noophuak Borch
thats a sad truth. FML gets away with alot of stuff.. like forced sXX and that okay.. apparently
SerialEater
Okay thats a great point but raina also did selfish deeds which were not mention dunno why
Axira
Like what (Im seriously asking cause I’m curious, can’t think of anything)
Theheck?
Me too?
SerialEater
You can see it on the comment if you wanna know.
Also bonus spoiler:
Axira
OMG WHAAAAAT– THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY FROM WHAT THE MANHWA SHOW US– like, omg poor novel readers, if I read it I would be so pissed right now (due to various reasons)
SerialEater
From what i have seen, novel readers are more open and mature about it. They just don’t rely on their emotions like you do and it is quite immature to think that way just saying
Axira
Well, maybe because my judgement is based on this manhwa only and since I didn’t read the novel it’s completely different story. And in this story he’s just a pathetic person, at least for now. I don’t hate him, I don’t even despise him, I don’t think he doesn’t have a room to grow, I’m simply stating what I concluded based on the facts I was presented so far. So you can’t compare your judgement to mine since it’s based on different facts. It’s like writing a review of the “Maze Runner” when you read the books and then watched a movies, and writing a review of the Maze Runner when you only watched the movies. For now I’ve read a story of an innocent girl, who had her life turned to hell one day, god knows why, and she got a second chance (she uses it pretty well BTW), and about a guy who in her previous life was like a rock. Literally like a rock – unable to feel (or at least show) emotions, unable to do anything on his own being pushed around by others (more or less); he’s also not doing bad given a second chance, not gonna lie, but that’s it. I’m waiting for a further development.
SerialEater
Wdym there is no room to grow it just look like you have closed your mind on something for that statement you might wanna change it since it contradict with other parts of your statement. Well, i don’t really care about your opinion as far as i have said that is your right all i’m saying is that you shouldn’t drag novel readers or assume that they would feel what you feel. Even if you would only know parts on the manwha it is still a one sided judgement which is unfair since you are only basing it off with what you know but what about other character’s stories? The story hasn’t even end yet so judging prematurely is just immaturity and emotion driven by people. So the conclusion of the story is still open until the story ends since people are concluding it already which is not fair for the author and people working for this.
Good for you axira atleast you are still open for redemption and second chances you are less annoying in my eyes anyway have a nice day!
Axira
Read carefully what I wrote, because you misunderstood. I wrote that I don’t think he doesn’t have a room to grow. Read this sentence one more time, cause your comment is completely out of nowhere and shows you can’t understand what you’re reading.
SerialEater
Well, thats on you and i’m not pissed off about it and would think immaturely just cause the characters are not likable since it just shows that humans are capable of doing selfish deeds for their own satisfaction that can harm other people.
Theheck?
?
SerialEater
It wasn’t mention here or i’m not sure if it will ever be mention but raina fell inlove with the duke which i’m not blaming her for but she wanted him all to herself just cause he said something comforting which she told her father about getting married to the duke. Eventhough she knew that he has some fiance which was shown here she still want him for herself which made her father used that to his advantage on getting rid of raina. In her past life, when raina got pregnant she heard the maids talking about how her husband is hanging around his ex fiance which he had no fault in it she just assume that he is cheating on her. Eventhough it is partly her fault that he was trapped in that situation where his life is being threatened every move that he makes she still blames him for everything. Her father knew how to break her and he did that to get his revenge over what happened years ago which involves the death of his wife which was raina’s mother. While raina was pregnant all she say to her child was that he should look like the duke and never even said “i love you” to her child. Even if she loved the child she was not a great mother since all she did was stare at her child eventhough he was crying in which if it weren’t for the servants the child would have died due to her negligence. She didn’t hold the child since she was mentally unstable in which in that time there was no cure nor study about it so it was not known.
All i’m saying is that she was obsess with the duke’s affection in her previous life and didn’t even took the duke’s advice on her living her life for herself and not on someone else. If it weren’t for her the battle for the succesion would have been fair but due to her obsession and greediness of love she took the duke for granted and when he did something that does not appease to her she blame him for everything.
SerialEater
If you still have questions and your opinion still stands then thats on you since everyone has the right to express their own beliefs but we shouldn’t really ridiculed someone just cause they made selfish decisions. They are partly at fault for what happened in the past and they should be held accountable even if it was less or more than at fault in that situation.
Apple
I’m crying T-T pls send water
IAmABlackCat
https://media1.giphy.com/media/mG26wClfIUDTvSd1fv/giphy.gif
Here ya go bestie~
Apple
thank you T-T
farto
mixed feelings, but i only knkow that i hate the father
SerialEater
The father has his reasons on why he did that i’m not saying his actions are good either he is just a human being.
917381
You know yourself well trash duke
SerialEater
He isn’t trash you’re just biased cause you know just a part of it and overlook what raina did as well
Nelly
Ughhh now I don’;t know!!!!!!!!!!!! but what I do want to know…did you come back in time Duke????
Yannah
I think I read a similar plot on the family issue where the father blames the kid…it’s quite annoying and saddening. It’s tormenting to think that there are still people like that today and that someone out there must be suffering like the FL. It is indeed hard to cope when a loved one died, but tormenting the living does not make it okay….
Anyway there were a lot of good reviews, especially the art. I just had a preference when it comes to art (like the art of Beware of the Villainess, A witch’s hopeless wish, the great wish), so I’m giving this one a good 7.5/10.
Plot?? Hmm there were the typical fairies/spirits but the emotional torture doesn’t sit well with me. I’m looking for something dynamic and fresh right now.
Others should give it a go, though. Tell me if the plot is great. Until then, I stopped at Ch1 lol. Good day folks.
den
reminds me of who made me a princess lol
Yannah
Dang this is torture…. It’s heartbreaking to think that people like that exist. Yes coping up to losing a loved one is hard, but why torment the living?
Yannah
Art is 8/10 I guess?? I prefer Hopeless withc or the great wish’s art for these kind of setup hehe. There were so many good reviews I got hyped up lol
Mark Long
I don’t understand this comic. Bit poetic and the story seems to go from survival to management.
Sukunas_wife
I think bestie remembers all the shit he did in the past-
Mcdonald's fries
The art style is somehow weird to me, but I think this will do, I’ll try reading this
Sukunas_wife
Bestie is so independent, I LOVE HER
Sukunas_wife
Istg if her father doesn’t get his karma I will deliver that shit straight to his front door myself-
Chica_Sensei
Ang ganda.
It’s so beautiful, at first I wanted to drop cuz I don’t understand a thing, but as you understand the story you will drone into it.
Plus, the art is so good too!
I can’t wait for the next update.
ahari
Idk why, but I don’t trust the brother either.
포미닛
Ahhh. I totally shipped them and they’re REALLY sailing ?
Al 0808
YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT???
Suga Taekookie
Corny ?
The most simper in the world
u made me laugh loll
junnie
i love this family already
junnie
duke blink twice if you feel bad for your wife
Dilch
Nobles seeing commoners’ lives as insignificant, nothing new ? But I love Reina, she’s gorgeous and determined and I think she’s about to use Undine’s powers!
Dilch
I understand the ML’s displeasure with the marriage alright but no that can’t justify his actions. Dear Edhart, I will solely focus on Reina and her child until your go through some serious redemption arc and reflect on yourself, then you may have a chance but only if Reina forgives you. Also get rid of that black haired woman right this instant.
junnie
the father must be mentally ill after his wife passed away…
Dilch
Oh I’m sorry I guess I’m not as smart as the father since I just couldn’t figure out HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT REINA’S FAULT? The mother chose to protect her son! I’m not saying he should take it out on the son either, blame the coachman or something but to hate a child just because she was the only one left unscratched is so petty, pathetic and immature.
Dilch
Oh I’m sorry I guess I’m not as smart as the father since I just couldn’t figure out HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT REINA’S FAULT? The mother chose to protect her son! I’m not saying he should take it out on the son either, blame the coachman or something but to hate a child just because she was the only one left unscratched is so petty, pathetic and immature.
Dilch
Oh I’m sorry I guess I’m not as smart as the father since I just couldn’t figure out HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT REINA’S FAULT? The mother chose to protect her son! I’m not saying he should take it out on the son either, blame the coachman or something but to hate a child just because she was the only one left unscratched is so petty, pathetic and immature.
junnie
undine… i want to form a contract with you too T.T
junnie
these nobles keep on getting on my nerve
junnie
save money and get out of that house with your child!!
junnie
well, idk if love at a first sight still exist…
junnie
no pls at least let her brother live with her
Lunatic
I need more this ain’t enough
Lunatic
To the trash list she goes
Lunatic
I just realized that the translation team is called ‘ truck-sama scans’
Dilch
Before hating the husband, did she say “I got Edhart Heathville”?? Did she use her position, asking her father to arrange this marriage? Maybe the husband didn’t want to marry but had to since Raina’s family is close to the Imperial Family? I didn’t read the next chapter yet but it would make sense if that was the case. It may have looked to him like a person he just gave advice out of pity/sympathy became delusional and forced a marriage on him. Though, these are all theories and I’m just trying to find the reason behind her unhappy marriage.
Edit: I just noticed the translator’s note and turns out I was right!
Emma Midoriya
I need more chapters
Drawwaaa
The last part was really impressing ????
Ohoho
I wonder what happened to him. I hope it’ll stay like this but there are still bt¢hes and bashtards that are needed to be cleaned up.
sniper
right
Ohoho
You’ve been doing good as a mother so don’t worry.
It's alrigt
Yes
Ohoho
According to my hunch, it seems he returned from the past or he realized something.
tHis sOMe Good TEa..
well his trying, that’s for sure. We need more Development.
??????_?????
I can understand that motherly love of her
But seeing reina cry and elle also made me emotional?,
Their relationship is improved,they became close to perfect family?
Rue
The last scenes comforts me like by the lighting and stuff, it’s very pleasing to see.
Shirin shaikh
Yeah, its relaxing.
Rue
I’m kinda rooting for the duke now that i read the spoilers
Fin
same I’m rooting too
kat
what r the spoilers >.>
Grick
Bestie tell us what happens in the spoiler tags of course
Rue
I think the spoilers that i read is chp. 21-22 ish soo yeaa I’m not really good at explaining sorry but here u go
so the duke is actually care for reina and elle. The problem is reinas father. He stopped the duke from meeting reina when the duke is trying to meet her cuz she preggo. And he brings in the ex-fiancee (like wth right). And grown up elle eventually found out the truth and furious so he locked up the duke and make him see what reina feel in the first life.
Ps. Im sorry im not good at explaining stuff??
Caramel smith
It was good don’t worry
nina
she’s an amazing mother already
SUPERTJH
I genuinely wonder if she did something different for his love of it they both went back.
IAmABlackCat
same…
Chieno
In case you really want to know, in the party chapter someone posted a huge spoiler about that.
SUPERTJH
Ah yes, I may have read that and promptly forgotten.
DIL
? that someone would be me and tnx for noticing it ?
Chieno
I gotchu
DIL
Noice ✨
DIL
Chapter 21 u will be able to kinda understand from his perspective even tho it doesnt allow him to be a jerk to her
SUPERTJH
Such a tense relationship. Elle needs to grow older so he can tell them both to get along ?
Nelly
I wanna know what caused this change on him. did he come back in time too? I wanna know, I NEED to know! …..I mean…if someone wants to post a spoilers down here ↓…I wouldn’t be too mad about it…(✿◠‿◠)
It's alrigt
He married her and left her to die on the orders of her father so that he could get the support to become Duke as I understood from raws.
The baby gets to know the truth after growing up and destroys the empire.
chanshine
that was his reason? how inhumane
i’m glad elle was able to know the truth after being blinded in his childhood
Jem ?
She’s Stunning!!! I love that dress!
Athielle
Oh gosh…she made a tall and sturdy wall and she doesn’t want it down! Duke you should do a better job!! C’mon, gimme goood and beautiful family bonding!!!
Just chillin'
Reina’s expression after seeing elle sick – ??
Drawwaaa
Her boobs must have milk.but they are so tiny
Wafa
Calm down reina~
Kids have fevers all the time
IAmABlackCat
Its the first time she experienced it so….
Wafa
Oh true I totally forgot
Adrienne Fabro
Uh-oh WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY! I’M DRAGGING EVERY DOCTOR HERE RIGHT NOW!
I’m afraid she’ll have a panic attack and something bad might happen?✋ SO WHERE THE F ARE THE DOCTORS RIGHT NOW!??!?!?! IF I WERE IN YOUR SHOES I WOULD SHOUT LIKE A CRAZY BITCH JUST TO GET EVERYONE AWAKE SO THE DOCTOR CAN COME RIGHT AWAY ?✋
Just__me ?
So, what’s the prince planning?
SUPERTJH
I can confidently state that they definitely have a relationship! The type… Well, eh, it’s an existing one!~
Imjusthere
Yes an existing one and really good relationship
SUPERTJH
I can confidently state that they definitely have a relationship! The type… Well, eh, it’s an existing one!~
Imjusthere
Yes an existing one and really good relationship
Nelly
First time mothers always react like this when their babies are sick/hurt u///u
dumpling_jennie_22
Indeed
Nelly
Duke…did you come back in time? you can tell me, I’ll keep your secret.
Yukiri
I think he did, but a redemption is need to be forgiven for what he did on the past.
why aren't 2ds real
the iconic sentence between the popular girls in primary schools.
DIL
The Prince is so sus that i just wanna end him be4 he tries something funny
P.s dont worry people its just a fever but she also got the fever while he was recovering so thats kinda sad but its also kinda for their hubby and wify bond to grow and her reaction was like my moms reaction when i choked on water and couldnt breath damn that was one heck of a memory like a life death situation ?
dumpling_jennie_22
oof, yeah, once I choked on my bone and couldn’t breathe, but my parents weren’t nearby, they were upstairs and I couldn’t scream.. So I was just hitting the table really hard and trying to climb up the stairs… It was so terrifying…
DIL
Ikr thank god you are okay mine wasnt so bad since it was something just like water but my parents and familys reaction was so bad i thought i was gonna die ryt that moment
dumpling_jennie_22
noooo that’s bad, good thing you’re still alive and well :DD
DIL
Oh yeah thank go for that 😀
I Live 4 Manhwa?
OUH HOW DO YOU CHOKED ON YOUR BONE?
Lily
Ah so I wasn’t dumb for choking on a whole candy-
DIL
I guess u aint lol
Glyuri
I choked an ice at school..i’m so dumb back then?
DIL
I mean arent u still dumb.
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Ok i am joking u are smart u replied to me so u are smart ! LoL still ice wow
Glyuri
Lmao well yea im still dumb tho..even now?
DIL
I am jk but lmao same
Chieno
Call every single doctor, now.
Drawwaaa
First calm down??? it’s just a fever
PedoBearr
But many people died because a simple fever out there
Drawwaaa
Not as many as impairal people
TheLegend
Back then a fever was very deadly especially for babies. Not to mention It’s natural since it’s her first and only baby. She doesn’t want to lose him again.
Drawwaaa
Don’t worry. This is manhwa. Not a real world. I can assure u writer won’t kill rhe baby
Jack Lee
Oh my 0-0 what happened…
P.s those spirits are so cute haha
P.s.s I can understand why she said that at the beginning of the chapter. I mean since she already knew the future, she doesn’t long for his affection so when he does, she doesn’t rly feel anything besides disgust.
Chieno
I click solely for Elle on these chapters to be completely honest.
Jack Lee
Elle looks so adorable (*≧︶≦) especially when he’s sulking
Imjusthere
Something about his hairstyle bothers
Me is it only me?
sniper
nah, its me too
Lunatic
Its his four head its too big
Sienna Maylafaisha
in prev chap,the ML said that his ex is heatville mistress….how does that mean?
i need spoiler??
Sienna Maylafaisha
in prev chap,the ML said that his ex is heatville mistress….how does that mean?
i need spoiler??
Lizenox
WAAH ELLE IS SO CUTEEE
Lizenox
I just wanna go there and be the fairy godmother ?
dumpling_jennie_22
I just love it when I see the FL or ML being styled in manhwas. It’s so good to look at what they pick out.
dumpling_jennie_22
Why did I find it cute when he just *plopped* the hat on her head, idk, I just found it cute.
Wafa
I want spirits too .-.
Lizenox
Not another blonde brother dying ?
Lizenox
Uwaaaah a pink haired FL
Chieno
After reading the spoilers and everything, I’m sorry but I can’t bring to like the ML, I just can’t.
?tsk tsk anna oop-
Why what happened??
Chieno
read the massive spoiler comments friendo :c
Rue
OKAY THIS IS CUTE WHAT
Rue
Like i understand the duke from the spoilers but …….. I still don’t really approve you w/ our queen??
cielstan
I kind of feel like he came back from the past too and in the past he let that women kill his son, and thats why the trash lady and him arent together this time and in the story they are hinting that he’s guilty for something that has to do with his son. fyi its just a guess
Henso
Updates (@_@)
Just chillin'
The spirits are so cute when they are arguing over elle ??
Yukiri
Nope I still don’t want an ml in this manhwa
Just__me ?
When he looked in excitement towards her? and then instantly changed his expression?
kat
that was so cuuuuute
SlidingScooter
So he’s the last avatar
Lucky
JS HII AKBSUSHS
IAmABlackCat
I died when the spirits started hating on him XD
SUPERTJH
Wholesome family bonding~ To a degree…
nina
the beginning of the chapter made me smile a bunch-
Brianneee ✔??
i cant seem to hate the guy ??
NOYB
Wait…. when did she sign a contract with the others?
Nelly
lol he should let his hair down more cause with that forehead….
Ohoho
I want to choke you… You fukkin bt€h who doesn’t know her place. Scram you fu¢ker.
(Sorry for my words I just want to let out my anger that’s been bottling up. )
Sadness
Good job holding your ground
You have power, don’t bow to them
SUPERTJH
How predictable. The one to talk bad about her is a fat snob of a noble.
bry
omg el is so cute
can i hug him
DIL
Awwww they would have made such gud couple if it werent for his ignorance (and the way he treated her ) and her low self esteem (i am not blaming her it was that freaking dad that damn guy) anddont worry we will have alot of cute scenes yet to come and he will be getting quite a little more redemption points even tho we cant just forgive him ;-; (thsi spoiler isnt a big spoiler of next chapter so dont worry if u want next chapter spoiler u may ask me i will replying at the earliest and posting it in this comment 🙂
Spolier for @Athielle elle since u asked in last chapter and i said i only had a theory but i have reached 21 and my theory is pretty much correct so i will tell u about it so Elle calls out his dad when he turned 15 and tell him that he thought he was the reason mother was killed ( our fl ) nd our ml gives this pretending not to know anything face and elle also calls him out for that and tells how his mother suffered and btw as u know spirit users can see what happend in the past so he shows how she (she as in our fl ) and the ml shows regret well kinda shows it and he looks around and sees how much she suffered and then we go to tge mls past so in hispast theres this mfing half brother who hated our ml so on the day of our fls brother getting the title (the day both fl and ml met in the green house) our ml and his mf half brother were congratulating fls brother and her ( our fl’s )brother asks to his ( mls ) half brother about our ml and he says ” he is his younger brother who does not have manners ” that mf how could he and ml gets so sickof this treatment he goes to the abandoned green house(yes the place were fl was ) then he sees her tells her stuff he told in the previous chap and fl proposes marriage nd ml is in her house with her father and no comes the part he will get some redemption and also the part which u said so the father says ” never give that child love just leave her alone that way i will support u ( the u is the ml ) booooooooom over this is the whole chapter 21 so the ml gets more redmeption points from this
this is a big spoiler so pkease only read if u want to know y the ml acted like a jerk in past life or refrain from reading thus as its the whole chapter of 21st
IAmABlackCat
How many chapters will it take for him to earn all redemption points. I am really curious!
DIL
by 20 he will get 35 redemption points and in 21 jhe will get 40 or 50 by sympathy cuz the reason y he acted like a jerk is being told and if u want i can tell u that and btw he also had quite a sad past but it doesn’t really give him the chance to be a jerk to our fl and my theory was correct i will put it in my comment above
IAmABlackCat
Okay thx for the spoilers.
DIL
Oh u are here wow
Sadness
Hello again
DIL
Ahh yes hello muss sadness how is your procrastination going any interruptors i got many of em
Sadness
It isn’t going well, I’m actually doing work for once ;-;
DIL
Ahh thats sad ( again ure name i luv pointing it out 🙂 and i will have my summer vacation starting from day after tomorrow so i will procastinate by sleeping till 11 in the morning and procastinate doing my holiday homework till last day ;-;
Sadness
(That you do)
That’s amazing, so much time for procrastination
I have to do school still ;-;
How is your procrastination going?
DIL
( hehe)
yeah ikr
Thats sad ;-;
Well gud cuz i dont have much work today is the last day of school so i have reached ultimate day for starting hibernat- i mean procastination
Sadness
I know ;-;
Your procrastination season has finally started
(Totally not hibernation)
DIL
Yes my procastination period (ofc its not hibernation) has started today but my dad was reluctant to let me be so i have to complete my holiday homework ;-;
Do u ahve summer vacations? (U just seem like u dont have one but oh well ;-; )
Sadness
How dare he make you do actual work
Yep, it just starts later ;-;
Our last school day is late May
DIL
Ikr but he- his too scary when angry i dont wanna mess with him ;-;
Oh glad to hear u have it
Mine starts on 1st may then ends at mid june
I dunno y they think its summer in june like in my place it starts to rain and summer starts at april and its so freaking hot those darn school officials are so irresponsible ;-;
Sadness
People are scary ;-;
Mine ends at the beginning of August
Basically, the seasons are wack
DIL
Ikr ;-;
Yeah wacky seasons and i really wasn’t procastinating replying to you ;-;
Sadness
I believe you ;-;
How’s your procrastination time going?
IAmABlackCat
(ignore this comment but I am really looking forward to this conversation lol)
DIL
U can read 21st chapter in above comment but its the whole chapter so if u want to know y he acted like a jerk only u should read that or u will be ahh uk when i get spoiled like big big that anger u will get that situation will arise
DIL
I am typing the chapter 21 spoiler so u can come and see it after a while
AkosiShan Sollag
Where did u find it? In raws? ?
DIL
In youtube duh i have read till 22 (be4 like 5 days) which was posted today in any case i can read 23 in youtube today itself it was posted 3 hours ago and i come by manhwatop to reread the manhwa since youtube translations are rushed and the words arent correct so i can understand what happend from the youtube video and be precise with these translations and please i dont undertsand a thing from raws ?
AkosiShan Sollag
What duh? ??? yeah.. thanks..
DIL
Ahh nvm i didnt mean to type it in there and its my pleasure
Sienna Maylafaisha
i wanna know about the mistress…why is she still there?
DIL
I dont think the mistress was there tho she died i think
Sienna Maylafaisha
im just curious in prev chap that the ml said the man is count and she is a mistress of heathvill….i wonder what thats mean?? and many thx to you❤️??
DIL
Oh yeah well i dont really remember well so ? and your welcome ✨
Athielle
Oh goodness! Thank you for your effort in this! I’m also trying to look for the novel version to, you know…I’m kind of impatient, but to no avail. Anyway, many thanks to you!~
DIL
Your welcome !
I havent seen the novel version but there are 21 chapters in youtube thats how i can spoil people ?
Pheles
A brain cell of mine popped while reading some parts of this spoiler. xD
DIL
Lmao again the *bg* *THE FINALE BRAINCELL TURURU TUROUO…..*
Chieno
He is so awkward, but not awkward like the other affectionate ML’s, he’s more like, a stone wall? lol
tHis sOMe Good TEa..
agreed, maybe he just doesnt know how to show his feelings correctly. I just want them to have a good relationship.
Chieno
Or in the worst
bestcase scenario, a peaceful divorce lol.AkosiShan Sollag
Lol.. hahaha
Nina Chan
Hmm
Nina Chan
Ugh
Nina Chan
>:(
Nina Chan
EEEEEEEEEEE HE’S SO CUTE
Nina Chan
Maybe
Nina Chan
Nice
Nina Chan
Cute
Nina Chan
NOOOOOOO T_T
Nina Chan
Aw
Cychotaku?
If I’m a spirit I would form a lifetime contract with you… you’re so cute!!
dumpling_jennie_22
AYO THAT PECK I NEED AN UNDINE TO PECK MY FOREHEAD LIKE THAT
SHOULD I PUT ON MY MOM’S BINDI AND WAIT FOR THE PECK??
Wafa
I’m sure that girl is behind it .
Also how did the duke know something will happen? Did he go back in time too? The duchess said she did not attend thus ceremony in the past so it makes sense that she would not know about this incident or forget about it since it did not happen in front of her
Nyaa arigato
Were getting now, mother-son relationship manhwas like omayghassh i lovee this!
Try “the flower dances and the wind sings” too
bellaswift
This is actually really good, but only have a few chapters yet. Read it guys ?
sniper
wow, her wings and the way she uses udine are nice ❤️??
bitch shut up and know your place
?tsk tsk anna oop-
Btch realy thought she could steal the limelight
Ohoho
Heh… btch Corvette, Corvette
Hop in a mothrfuckin’ jet like that~ ?
kabayo ni bebang
?
here’s a start good job bro you get a plus point from me, but i still hate you
Nelly
Okay wait a minute, did he came back in time like her? Last chapter he was like “something’s gonna happen” and then it did, and he’s being more attentive towards her…so…is he the reason she came back? It’s just…such a drastic change from the past…it would make sense…maybe.
Just__me ?
The peck on her head was so so cute❣️
And those wings ?
Just__me ?
The peck on her head was so so cute❣️
And those wings ?
??????_?????
Ml has character development +1 redemption, still long way to goo ?♀️
Udine peek in her head and water wings gives mee goosebumps
SUPERTJH
Kinda feeling a mixed bag of emotions about that there husband. BUT! I don’t think ill of him yet~ …sorta
SUPERTJH
Kinda feeling a mixed bag of emotions about that there husband. BUT! I don’t think ill of him yet~ …sorta
Kaira chan
I still hate her husband
Hina Afiah
Damn the water wings tho! She really is a goddess!
DIL
I ahve reached chapter 19 lol so anyone can ask for spoilers i will add next chaps spoilers in this comment
Spoiler Alertso her dads frnd a mf count or something tells that how can they believe her and the bishy mistress says tp our fl that they ownt Believe her until she does a vow which basically will kill her if she tells lies and its for a life time so our fl thinks and says it none of my problem if u cant Beleive me and yada yada which are some badass lines this what happend but it much cooler in manhwa form check that out in next chap
athena
i want some spoiler pleasee ≧ω≦
DIL
Check put my comment u replied to
DIL
Check put my comment u replied to
서해용
You just search for it’s spoiler. It has up to chapter 26 in spanish but they do have translation
Sienna Maylafaisha
meeeeeee….!!!!
DIL
Ok wait a min i wrote it but forgot to post it dang it
DIL
Check the comment u replied to u will see it
Eskhan
Ooo thank youuuu ❤️?… I’m looking forward to the next chapter ??
DIL
Ofc if u need any spoilers for this manhwa i am here for help even tho i do forget what happend half of the time lol
Eskhan
Hehehe ?… Thanks pal … I will keep that in mind…
DIL
☺♥️
IAmABlackCat
How do u get all these spoilers lol
DIL
Oh sry for the late reply I didn’t see this till now when I was rereading this and i have read till from YouTube it’s translations aren’t gud as this but u can get the base idea from pictures and text and I got one spoiler from YouTube’s comment section which felt like a theory but it was tagged as spoiler so I didn’t give much mind to the fact it was kinda believeably unbelievable lol
IAmABlackCat
Oof, I just curious thats it.
DIL
Oh ok lol not like i have any problems if u dont specify y u wanted to know it
Athielle
Are you far enough to know if the female lead will know what really happened in the first timeline? Like why her husband was like that in the first timeline? Coz I really want to see the female lead know why her husband treated her in such a way, I have a soft spot for blackmailed-redeeming-characters heho!
DIL
Even tho I haven’t read that part I have a theory of u want I can tell u and in a spoiler I read it’s kinda supports my theory and the reason y he changed I read in this spoiler which supports my theory
P.s please don’t blame if the spoiler or theroy is wrong since the source is not confirmed ?
Levi Angerman(agement)
The fact that I know all the names mention on the last panel girlllll
Jem ?
Our girl’s gonna slap some sense into their rotting brains
hibi
WHY IS THE HUSBAND SO UGLY SIR WHAT IS WITH UR HAIR
hibi
this action is going to have consequences
Jem ?
By any chance, did the husband turn back time? Anyway, I’m just so excited with this story!
?Your Empress?
Oi that first wordd… sentences… does he know.? I’m so confused..
All villainess are my queen
just letting it out.. this story has many spoilers and situations… The husband and the brother.. please keep an open mind for them.. you will need it.. and as for the father.. naaa he just evil
All villainess are my queen
just letting it out.. this story has many spoilers and situations… The husband and the brother.. please keep an open mind for them.. you will need it.. and as for the father.. naaa he just evil
milf
HAHAHA GUYS IN CH 21 WE GET TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOU THE PAST LIFE AND OUR EL AVENGES HIS MILF HAHAHA AND UHH THE DILF KIND OF REDEEMS HIMSELF AFTER WE GET TO KNOW THE TRUTH IT WAS REALLY COOL HAHAH
포미닛
Oh. I think it’s a show to bring up the words “curse woman” and “curse child” tss
Yukiri
I think he time travel too, but no matter what good he do now, I still don’t like him, I just hope that she and the baby will live a happy life, without her father, her husband and the mistress.
sniper
omg, he is strong and so adorable?
JWaldo Yaffers
Did the husband come back too? I’m getting that feeling he did….
??????_?????
Elle as well as udine is soo cute
Magic spell of Elle:
Ababa – water
Uuhh – earth
Abuuu – wind
Aguu – fire
dumpling_jennie_22
BABY LANGUAGE IS SO. CUTE.
Puhrinsesu
You really make our lives better. ?
Pheles
Why the hell did I try reading this in baby language ._.
Fayeza
THAT IS SO FUKIN CUTE
Looking for some good shit/s
that black hair thot better not try anything!
Looking for some good shit/s
The baby so cute! ❤️
ẞless
Oh a show I see
DIL
Ahh i have already read till 14 or 15 i dont remember but ik what gonna happen in 2 chaps and its pretty satisfying how the husband does something nice and if u guys want any spoilers or have questioms bout next chap feel free to ask
Wyatt
I want plz
DIL
so in the next chapter they will see 2 birds which are dead and these 2(idk exact no. Of birds there but if i remember correctly) which are the signs of the husband and wife’s family which is sus as hell and so the mf mistress is the one who went there so everyone asks her bout it and she calls the duke by his name (she was his former finance so everyone was curious to his reaction) but boi here comes the satisfying part so the duke threathningly warns her that the emperor and his wife can only call him by his name and yada yada then he says that his wife is a spirtual user and she can see what happend be4 they came and she says yes and they see that a worker with wine did that and they call the guards and stuff happend u will understand all this in next chap cuz i dont really remember since it was updated days ago in youtube
Just__me ?
So, is this the reason he was being all good? To introduce the mistress?
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(guys, I have the hunch that maybe the husband too time travelled. I may be wrong though ?)
Analist
testing something out i know something
Analist
I read somewhere (I can’t find the novel but it was from someone I believe that had) where the son grows up and takes revenge for his mother on his father by locking him up and showing him visions of what his mother went through. While imprisoned the husbands wishes to turn back time to fix everything that went wrong
Just__me ?
I see. Thanks ❣️ I felt he also time travelled as he was acting all nice? I still don’t like him
AkosiShan Sollag
Thanks! ?
Apple
ooo thank you for this
All villainess are my queen
Soo this is what I heardAccording to the spoilers it was female leads father who brought the mistress inthe dukedom when the male lead was away.. he with his whole life hates FL so he wanted her to suffer.. and yes it was also said male lead only changed back the time.. also male lead was being tortured by the femal leads father in the original timeline sooo like he was being threatened that if he keeps her happy he will kill both the kid and the FL.. so there were many things that was done by female lead’s dad…
Just__me ?
So, that’s what the father was planning a few chapters ago, he’s disgusting af!!
Athielle
I thought so! I was like I bet he was being framed by the female lead’s dad that he will make her and her son suffer if he is kind to her or whaevah and that’s why he did that. He was such a kind person and I find it strange that he would hate the fl just because of marriage when he gave the fl advise. So all the blame should be put on the father. But I do hope El didn’t hate his father too much in the first timeline becoz he’s father was being blackmailed at that time.
All villainess are my queen
Exactly exactly.. this manhwa has too many turns.. I wish to read it without being too loyal to anyone.. so let’s see where it goes
Aera Akhsa
oohh… remind me a bit of shadow queen
All villainess are my queen
OMG now that you said it.. yes it does (*´ω｀*)(*´ω｀*)
Ohoho
Why is the bish showed up?! Is she planning something?!
Ohoho
Awwwww how lovely
SUPERTJH
The would be mistress?! He did warn her so let’s see what he has planned.
SUPERTJH
He’s a protagonist alright, just like his mother~
Appy
Thats called the MC bufff.
Nelly
why is she here?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Husband what are you scheming? I can’t trust you yet….
Light
There are some spoilers uwu if ya’ll confuse to why his attitude is different uwu. Just search it. Uwuwu
Ohoho
Now I’m curious but I shall not search it cuz there will be no thrill.
Chieno
the kid is like an isekai MC, he’s op af lol.
Inngi Pingi
Maybe he will get his OWN MANHWA SOON!!
I Am A Black Cat
Dont mind me, just waiting for another isekai
Light
U is da best mamiii be hapi
Books&Solitude
I almost screamed when he picked up El gave him to her because I thought he threw the baby at her.
SerialEater
People are really unfair for their treatment towards the male lead since neither of them are good and they are humans who make mistakes.
Credits to upsadaisy and other novel readers from novel spoilers.
Here is my unbiased insight on the situation and there will be spoilers.Female Lead Storyline: She was blame by her father for killing their mother since if it weren’t for her distracting her brother there mother could have live which was one of the reasons she became someone special (disable person i’m not gonna use that word since it sounded for me as an insult and indifferent for people who has some condition). When she was in the garden on the first three chapters it was mentioned she meant the male lead which told her “you should live for yourself” (not for her mother, father and brother) then she became obsess with him. She told her father about him which her father used this as his advantage.
Male Lead Storyline: He was having battle of succesion with his brother. They were even footing to compete for it when the female lead and her father took the battle into their own desire and satisfaction. The female lead’s father basically manipulated the male lead on either choosing to marry her daughter or marry his fiance which the support from them would be on his brother. (There was not enough details about his brother on why he didn’t want his brother to succeed either way from my understanding on the battle for succession if you do not win the people from the capital will condemn you) He had no choice but to marry the female lead to win for the succession rights. He met the female lead again but he didn’t like her since she was behaving like her father which disregarded his own rights for her satisfaction.
During the pregnancy of the FL she never once said that she loved the child since all she told her baby bump was that the child should look like his father which was the ML. She overheard the servants talking about how the ML still visits sophie (ex fiance) which made her storm to confront sophie. She told sophie that she should just stay away from the ML and sophie counter back at her with that she was suppose to be in her place. After hearing about the news of her coming to confront sophie the ML get mad at her saying that he would not have an affair with her as well having children cause he knows the battle of succesion which destroyed his relationship with his own brother. (It just shows that he still have respect on her) She goes premature labor after the confrontation.
After her labor, she wouldn’t even take care of the child which force the ML to take away the child. She had her child taken away from her since she wouldn’t touch, wash and feed the baby due to her mental state. She left all the nanny to do her job since all she do is stare at the child which she may have loved the child but it might have died if it weren’t for the servants. I don’t have enough details on sophie but it might be that she is just concern for his son but she can also twist this speculation.
I do not condemn both of them since they are human beings who have desires but i think there was more bias on the female lead which she is really unreliable narrator and unstable which she may have loved the child but as a mother she is horrible at her responsibility. He told her to live her life but instead of taking his word she just relied on him to change her life.
For the mental illness part, if anyone would counter back saying that if he really cared for her he should have gotten her a doctor or smth like that. I think the author is being realistic where in that timeline mental illness was not yet discovered or discuss for treatments so yeah they wouldn’t get some treatment with that in mind no one knew why the FL was behaving that way.
You can ask some questions or say your opinion on this matter i’m free to discuss however we should also mind that not every character or person are perfect and we should take account on every people’s side of the story.
Athielle
Now I know, and now I want them to be closer (ML and FL) and resolve the misunderstanding of the past. For me, I would think that the past was somehow the FL’s fault in some way, she led the ML to think that way and now I want to tell her “don’t hold it against him”, but the FL suffers too so I’d like to point all the blame to the effin father!
SerialEater
We can just hope that it will become better in the future.
SerialEater
Yeah it was mostly the father’s fault but they are all to blame for their own actions and decisions which led to disaster.
dumpling_jennie_22
I knew there was a reason why the ML was cold… BUT STILL. HE SHOULDN’T BE THAT MEAN TO HER!!!
Yukiri
Deym! I really hate the father!!
SerialEater
Told you guys, he has a reason thats why he did what he did we should also see his situation not just the one sided view of him by the female lead. I’m not saying that he should not take accountability on the past since he still deserve the punishment.
All villainess are my queen
Exactly.. just letting it out.. this story has many spoilers and situations… The husband and the brother.. please keep an open mind for them.. you will need it.. and as for the father.. naaa he just evil
SerialEater
We shouldn’t judge someone just cause of the one-sided view of him from the female lead point of view. We should take an accountability to his situation as well like in ancient chinese philosophy the yin and yang that has the concept of dualism which seems opposite and contrary forces in which correlates to every person since we judge someone based on what we know but our opinions would change once we knew the other side of the story.
LuHasJSJams
Wait, are you talking about the Duchess’ husband or her brother? Because the one shown above was her brother and father, not the husband.
SerialEater
Wait sorry i’m blind but you know i’m still not gonna judge the husband since his story has not yet come out.
SerialEater
Now, i know the husband reason i’m just saying that i don’t agree neither the female lead and male lead.
LadyLeblanc
The coincidence, I literally just watched a show and there’s a character who’s name was also Zion?
LadyLeblanc
The coincidence, I literally just watched a show and there’s a character who’s name was also Zion?
draikarys
is this…ginny and georgia
LadyLeblanc
Loool you know it?
draikarys
lmao i just finished watching it too…cant wait for s2
nina
now I feel bad for the brother-
I’m boutta throw hands with the father tho.
Ohoho
Can you slap and punch that fukkin father for me? So the only bashtard is the father and his brother can’t do anything to protect and help her and time passes by he changed because of the influence of that fukkin geezer.
Ohoho
I’m happy for her that in her second life, she can change her fate and protect El. Baby I’mma be your godmother. Though I’m a poor godmother, I’mma give you lots of love!
Ohoho
I’m happy for her that in her second life, she can change her fate and protect El. Baby I’mma be your godmother. Though I’m a poor godmother, I’mma give you lots of love!
Ohoho
She deserves respect and good treatment. She did a big role in saving people. If you dare call her cursed and criticize her, I’mma slap y’all one by one.
?Your Empress?
I shall assist you in slapping.
IAmABlackCat
Slapping aint enough…
I have guns-
Lunatic
I have poison-
Lunatic
I have poison-
Your Midnight lover
Yeah slapping also makes your hands hurt
The most simper in the world
no that would be too easy torture them first bro ia have the inspiration in tokyo ghoul when ken is being tortured lol
Zero
I have kifeee lez goooooooooo
ASENA
And I’ll kick them one by one right after you slap
Ohoho
Oho i like that… ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ
Ohoho
Undine can you slap those bashtards spouting nonsense to her?
SUPERTJH
Bugger off “father”!
Nelly
Ughhh this father, I just wanna have a talk…???…that’s all…a talk..
SUPERTJH
? I see you have a “talking set” as well, how civil of you~
utackonia
Yeah it always works when you’re “talking” to trashs ?⚰️
I like cute things
I read the word trashs as trashta ???
utackonia ( i simp for cale)
Your eyes are doing their job properly ??❤️❤️
I like cute things
???
I like cute things
Hhahahaha
Saturne
Same?
Lucky
Yeah, everyone here can have dinner together with him, and just “talk” it out, ya know???
Lucky
Yeah, everyone here can have dinner together with him, and just “talk” it out, ya know???
♡あかり♡
please have a nice ‘talk’ ??? i shall provide the ?? of the best kind ..
anlunabetth
i know a great place to take the trash out…
I Am A Black Cat
Just a nice little chat in the forest that it ??
ASENA
I’ll watch you all have a nice talk as I sip my tea ?☕
Apple
I am v late but I would also like to join this “talk” ?
hanniesora
I’m coming with you. I also wanna talk with him???
The most simper in the world
waitt i also want to have a great ?????only just a???talkk???no iam really kind?☠️ https://media1.giphy.com/media/ryKkajMOMjYCQ/giphy.gif
Caramel smith
Imma stay outside and guard the room while u guys “talk”……so no one will disturbe u???
Just__me ?
Her brother is being suppressed by his father like “I tamed the tyrant and ran away”. ?
adhara
#JUSTICEFORHERBROTHER
Ohoho
Yesssss!
hibi
get a new husband ion like this one
Dilch
Pffft-
Ohoho
I wanna blow them all up. This fukkin aristocrats…*clenches fist*
Wafa
Much respect for our reina
Alverrann
Awww, her crying was soft.
Alverrann
Awww, her crying was soft.
Alverrann
I like this spirit, lol
Alverrann
So she’s gonna use the blessing already? Dang that was quick
Alverrann
So she’s gonna use the blessing already? Dang that was quick
Alverrann
That last dress is kind of epic
Alverrann
That last dress is kind of epic
Alverrann
I hope she’s not sick …
Alverrann
I literally don’t care who caught her, I’m just glad that the pregnant woman didn’t hit the ground.
SUPERTJH
Begin the true romance~
SUPERTJH
Begin the true romance~
Me_Just_Me?
Where can I read the novel for this?
Sadness
Small child
AkosiShan Sollag
Who’s gallahan? Always see his name in comment section ?
AkosiShan Sollag
Who’s gallahan? Always see his name in comment section ?
Imjusthere
He is from “ I’ll be a matriarch in my next life.” The FL father ( he is pretty cute)
AkosiShan Sollag
I really want to see how they conceived Ell. It it only me? ?????
Nelly
Interesting…does he…does he remember perhaps? It’s kinda sus that he did this, since in the past she couldn’t hold her own baby because of her trauma. He better treat her right this time!!!
Imjusthere
Maybe but that was probably the most dramatic entrance I have ever seen
November the Evil
Lol, i just have to say this.. Gallahan and Tenstheon are still being stanned even on another dimension ??
?tsk tsk anna oop-
Awhhh this is so cute
Light
WAIT A MINUTE DID YOU SEE WHAT THE DUKE DID? Why do I feel like sumthin sumthin,
SUPERTJH
He showed up real quick to force her to love her baby truly~
Rue
Awwwwww el is so cute and for what ?? and spirit even has a nicknsme for hiimmm wiggly ? how adorable
Hina Afiah
This super woman!
https://media1.giphy.com/media/ivQ6Otsxv8y5O/giphy.gif
Ally
I’ll be back after a year to earn the chapters??
RinaIsFeelingIt
That’s normally me but I saw way too many screenshots on Instagram so I can’t resist anymore ??
Metha
Awww cutie little El
Books&Solitude
Bruh, who disliked this? Does that mean they think El is not cute???
Metha
I dont really like her husband, please just life happy ever after with ur child ma’am??
Rue
Me too!!! ??
sniper
the baby is so cute and the water spirit i feel u
sniper
she is powerful with the water spirit, but why did he only come now like almost after the fire???!!!!
sniper
she is powerful with the water spirit, but why did he only come now like almost after the fire???!!!!
AkosiShan Sollag
Coz he’s busy. Lol ?✌
utackonia
directed by robert b weide
The end https://media1.giphy.com/media/KINAUcarXNxWE/giphy.gif
dumpling_jennie_22
lmao
Eskhan
Hahaha ??
Pheles
He was not in his territory – – He was in the Capital since he is managing Internal Affairs. IDK if you read properly, but that’s why he arrived late.
bry
the baby
SO CUTEEEEEE
https://media0.giphy.com/media/inyqrgp9o3NUA/giphy.gif
I Live 4 Manhwa?
why this gurl kind a creepy lol
Just__me ?
Yes, just remain this happy. I and the other readers will prevent anything that makes you sad. We’ll kill whoever it is??
Books&Solitude
My weapons are ready. Just give me the call.
Just__me ?
I was correct… We readers won’t allow any of the b;tches to have her ?
Books&Solitude
Who needs a male lead when you got your readers?
Just__me ?
Exactly ??
Books&Solitude
Someone must have been so touched they clicked on the downvote button by mistake.
Just__me ?
That was me lol?
Books&Solitude
I see. You were so touched by your words, you ended up accidentally pressing the screen. How amusing?
Just__me ?
Hehe?
IAmABlackCat
Need help u two?
Just__me ?
It’s ‘Protect the fl squad’ you are free to join ?
IAmABlackCat
thank u
mochi
Im joining!
ELI
??
Sachyan
So glad that in this life she can finally hold him??
AkosiShan Sollag
Why on her previous life she didnt summon the spirit?
adhara
because she didn’t sign contracts or know any spirits. she was surprised that one approached her last chapter, remember?
AkosiShan Sollag
Ahm.. what i mean is why not approached her in the first timeline?
AkosiShan Sollag
Ahm.. what i mean is why not approached her in the first timeline?
dumpling_jennie_22
Please don’t be slaves… Also.. Imagine not having the support of your husband, family, his family, his subordinates, and your subjects… That is so hard to live with… And her only happiness was taken away because she was assumed to be cursed… And that too because her child cried when she held him…
dumpling_jennie_22
We need to start a new tag for the isekai world… I introduce to you…
#CommonLivesMatter
Listen up nobles, you became a noble and own a territory CAUSE THE MONARCH TRUSTED YOU TO PROTECT THAT TERITORRY AND ITS PEOPLE.
PERIODT.
dumpling_jennie_22
We need to start a new tag for the isekai world… I introduce to you…
#CommonLivesMatter
Listen up nobles, you became a noble and own a territory CAUSE THE MONARCH TRUSTED YOU TO PROTECT THAT TERITORRY AND ITS PEOPLE.
PERIODT.
hibi
damn that water spirit kinda convenient rn
November the Evil
Ballsless coward.. you let a pregnant woman beat your asses? Wow.. you go girl!!
Yukiri
Ohh yesss prove them wrong.
Yukiri
Woooow ??? This queen don’t need a king.
Wafa
Reina and Undine ?
Wafa
You did not just say that..
Ceziriniah
What will you govern if you don’t have population? People is what makes the territory a city or town or whatever.. If you think that their lives are insignificant then you are simply not fit to oversee a territory.
SerialEater
I’m so confuse with the timeline
KULANG SA TULOG QUEEN
This is: being rich will never justify one’s real worth for most of them are branded ravens like them.
tHis sOMe Good TEa..
Man, nobles sucks. HOpE that they’re the ones burning https://media2.giphy.com/media/DAYsnNd8dlRhC/giphy.gif
Just__me ?
So, you mean commoners’ lives are less important?!?!! No, it’s your life that does not matter ?
????????? ???
Well said,bro?
Just__me ?
sis* ??
??????_?????
she overcame everything that was meant to destroy her – to the bishess who spouting nonsense about her
Dead pool
screw off gossipers
Inngi Pingi
Yeah those trash should just disappear
SUPERTJH
Most effective player : The Cursed Duchess (Who’s pregnant!)
Nelly
Maybe she can use the little spirit’s power? Then everyone will see her as a benevolent ruler and she will be loved by the people!!
Chieno
she’s gonna explode the next chapter.
Just__me ?
A woman is no less than anyone no matter in what condition she is…periodt ?
bry
i like your profile
Just__me ?
Ikr?? I like yours too especially Lucas as the pp
utackonia
I couldn’t find the two pointing spidermans meme so take this instead
https://media0.giphy.com/media/GgL288OGdmkGA/giphy.gif
sniper
she proved them wrong, go yass show them what u got, respect
SUPERTJH
People about to feel bad that a pregnant woman is about to show them up~
?...?... Noice___??
I don’t know but the “future concubine” might have some involvement with how the things turned out for her in the old time line. Like maybe she’s the one who pushed the duke to send her away(?) Or some shit like that. Idk but this is just a hunch, but if that turns out to be true imma throws some hands to some homewreking bitch?
Cellicia
Combined with the summary that would make sense.. maybe the concubine blackmailed him or something..
Nashie
But if that’s the case, wouldn’t the duke be a pushover or kinda weak for being blackmailed by such woman.?
Cellicia
Depends on what kind of blackmail it is.. what if.. for instance he really love reina but that concubine threatens to hurt reina if he doesn’t comply? This way he will have no choice but to do as the concubine says
Cellicia
Combined with the summary that would make sense.. maybe the concubine blackmailed him or something..
?...?... Noice___??
First of, this one is promising. The art is good, the story is good and the characters are also good (Female lead). It one of those manhwa about their family problems. I’m not sure if they’ll try to fix it or not, but for now I dont think so(?). Its stilll early for some assumptions. I’ll keep up with this one.
Blackbear Regalia
Update More Please!
Eli
trying to poison a pregnant duchess and still wanna keep their jobs
not even that sh*tty duke would keep someone harming his child at least ??
plus this is a m*rder attempt against a life that hasn’t been born yet
Cellicia
I don’t think that’s poisonous? It’s more like rotten fruits.. see the insect flying around? Besides.. if it’s poisonous they would be clever enough not to make it visible..
Eli
rotten and contaminated fruits can cause dangerous food poisoning to a preg woman
it can even cause miscarriage too
Cellicia
Oh waw.. i didn’t know that.. thanks for letting me know!
AkosiShan Sollag
Hope its fast update ? in arabic site have already 20 chaps..
Aiose Willard
It’s payback time??
TheLegend
She’s different because she’s pregnant, it’s her glow. https://media3.giphy.com/media/3VSM58Eu7kR4A/giphy.gif
KULANG SA TULOG QUEEN
Oh, it was me. I was just passing by Duchess. (´ε｀*)
Just__me ?
I really hate this… Like how the Butler is expecting something new but never actually cared about her.. like why notice now?
João Marcelo
I also hate how everyone treated her, but about your question in the end the answer is clear: when someone changes, the people arround him/her will change their posture towards the person, only a ignorant would keep the same posture. here we can see a smart person (the butler) changing his posture in a more respectful way towards someone who became smarter and more cunning. she is no more the prey, she is now the predator
Lovely Friendo
When is the divorce? I’m looking forwards to a mother-son slice of life.
adhara
how cocky they are. so they think they can abuse and mistreat their mistress? she may not be favored by the duke, but she’s status is still worlds above theirs. serves them right.
Parth Deshmukh
Yeah. Moreover she is pregnant. The servants didn’t think about the baby!
Sadness
She is their Duchess
They must have grown cocky
SUPERTJH
Housecleaning ~
??????_?????
I love the way she said I’m duchess of Heathvillie!!
Yesss girlll It’s time to take action who disrespected you..
They all are deserved to be fired..
Yukiri
Fudgeee! I this doesn’t need ml at all. L
Yukiri
Like WHAAAAT? how can you blame an accident to a child. And you call yourself a father. ???
Lunatic
Like it was not her fault it was the carriage, coachman and the horses like how
Katana Suki Mayako
The art is Good!
The plot is good!
But the problem is the ml you know what I mean he’s a trash. ( I read that he will bring he’s fiance and the fiance is bad too)
But you should try this one.
Daniela Cantu
im a little confuse, this chapter is when she has already come back and she hasnt had the baby? or is she expecting a second bably?
João Marcelo
it is when she has already come back and she hasnt had the baby
Aunty Lali
Yes! Cut off the ties!
I know he’s gonna end up as the ML, and I know he has some regret or whatever, but I especially hate how he handled this situation. He never paid attention to the mother, but he paid enough attention to immediately take away her child? Like excuse me? The audacity! That’s something I can’t tolerate, even if I’m not a mother, or of any motherly position. It’s practically the same as taking away a stranger’s child without permission…
João Marcelo
why in this webtoons the guy who basically destroyed the fl’s life gets to be the ml? this is seriously getting more repetitive as I read this types of history, why can’t the fl just run away in at least in one of them?
Aunty Lali
Excuse me?! What the hell-
So what if she couldn’t touch him, he’s been alive for one day! Give her more time! Who takes the baby away right after it’s born, and then brings in a mistress as the mother, despite knowing the real mother does and can care for the baby?
Aunty Lali
Excuse me?! What the hell-
So what if she couldn’t touch him, he’s been alive for one day! Give her more time! Who takes the baby away right after it’s born, and then brings in a mistress as the mother, despite knowing the real mother does and can care for the baby?
ASENA
Where does it say that he was taken way after just a day? I think it was longer, people won’t just whisper about the child crying after being born just after a day.
???_??_?_?????
Readinh this just makes my blood boil even more
AkosiShan Sollag
I want more! ?
Loveboi
Wait what she had to beg for her baby?! This is really frustrating me. I hope she gets the happy ending with her son. ?
adhara
yes, you go queen! idk about their husband but i’m excited for her 🙂 and if he starts to love her, he better have a good explanation otherwise i’m yeeting him off a cliff
nina
i stan!! want help with the yeeting?
Nashie
I shall assist you in yeeting him off the cliff, if the reason doesn’t suffice.
k dork ヾ(•ω•`)o
Allow me to shoot him as well (^o^)
riye
i’d rather have her another love interest, one who could make her happy and can see and value her worth
IAmABlackCat
Yeah, I don’t want this trash as the ml, even if it was ‘for the sake of her survival’ or that crap.
riye
i’d rather have her another love interest, one who could make her happy and can see and value her worth
Shai
They would probably end up together like the most common manhwa. They even have a child so I think there’s no escape? Unless, the divorce will be permitted and she can remarry like Naver.
Nelly
Yas queen! As long as you get to keep your baby and you both get to be happy what that man does should not concern you. He’s gonna regret treating you coldly! You’ll see!
Chieno
hoping this has a strong self love finale and not a cliche one ‘fingers crossed’
SUPERTJH
Her first step to a brighter future! I am slightly antsy for their romance~
athena
i want to hug her ? and slap her husband ?
Alverrann
I mean, yeah, she was too nervous to touch the kid, but where were you, dude? Shouldn’t daddy be there to pick up where mommy needs help?
Alverrann
Um. Was the father always like this? Did he beat his wife? Why did he become abusive?? I’m so curious as to whether or not this is something that happens in real life; if the father was as loving as his wife, it’s pretty much inconceivable that he would become a tyrant like this, isn’t it?
But at least this other dude helped her. Seems like a chill guy.
Eskhan
I want to slap her husband…. How can he treated someone who become the reason for him to succeed his title
Above all, he took her baby and give it to his Ex…. Ughhhhh… I am so angry right now ????
Alverrann
Well he’s certainly not helping with her survival’s guilt. I hope the brother doesn’t come to blame her because of the father. :/
Alverrann
I thought the lil’ bro was gonna rip the beads out of her hand or summ. This is so much worse.
Kz Mafuyu
If you’re looking for something deep and meaningful to read, this one’s for you. The art and story is also good.
João Marcelo
I am not liking this very much, I can’t even imagine how could he redempt himself for what he, her father and everyone did to her. also this webtoon doesn’t explain things that are better done so right away, because if not they only will make the readers frustrated.
for instance, this world has magic and spirits, which could mean that curses could also exist. this brings the question: do cursed people really exist? and how do they get “cursed”?
it would explain everything if the fl is really cursed, but then why did the curse fall upon her and how could she ever achieve a happy future? then, she isn’t cursed? well if so why the baby would cry when her own mother tried to touch it? can such a thing even happen to an infant and its biological mother?
and FINALLY, IF HER HUSBAND LOVED HER, WHY DID HE TREATED HER LIKE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT? is this idiot even in his right mind? I could undertand if he was just avoiding her or something, maybe it was his way of protecting her from something unknow for us readers, but NO! he took her baby out of her life, which was probably the last thing that kept her sanity, wtf dude?
Sakusa’s wife
I love that the baby is her priority, we don’t need her trash husband. ??
yuyu
i hope she gets power and can run away and take care of her child, might be impossible since its also the dukes son. so the duke would send people to look for him. i hope she gains power from someone and “new” male lead, the duke doesn’t deserve her, wether he changes. he left her to die like that. hoping for a better ML that’ll take care of her and her baby and helping her with her trauma please let her happy. maybe a prince since they have a higher status? or a higher duke or a person from a neighboring country.
KULANG SA TULOG QUEEN
Oh dear, another manhwa to stan
Loveboi
Ugh just from this chapter I already hate the ml. I just hope he atleast has a good excuse to why he acted that why so I can like him.
Loveboi
Father = Piece of crap ?
They’re just so similar ?
aluna_moon_god
yasssssss baby mama
Nelly
I don’t care for the ML but I hope she can get past her trauma and at least be able to hold her baby! Then she can take her baby and run away from this man that let her die like that! She deserves to be happy, please let her be happy!
SUPERTJH
Redemption arch~
Ohoho
You go girl!
hibi
i better wake up to more chapters
AkosiShan Sollag
Hope this manhwa have a fast update ?
AkosiShan Sollag
Why!????? I need more!! ?
AkosiShan Sollag
Why always a child fault by the way!?
Rue
Pls pls don’t tell me the yellow blondie man is the ml ???
Ps.i see in chapter 4, the husband treated her coldly after the marriage (?) And took the baby away a couple while after she gave birth ?? and if I’m not wrong gave the baby to the ex-fiancee (??) To take care (?) Im not really sure about the last one but yeah I don’t like the husband at all so far ?
Rue
Pls pls don’t tell me the yellow blondie man is the ml ???
Ps.i see in chapter 4, the husband treated her coldly after the marriage (?) And took the baby away a couple while after she gave birth ?? and if I’m not wrong gave the baby to the ex-fiancee (??) To take care (?) Im not really sure about the last one but yeah I don’t like the husband at all so far ?
AkosiShan Sollag
Where did u found it?
SUPERTJH
Light didn’t last long, huh?
SUPERTJH
Don’t you just love the blame game? Yeah! Me neither!
SUPERTJH
This has caught my interest
Aunty Lali
Now the brother is evil… look what you’ve done duke.
Aunty Lali
What the hell?! Wouldn’t it be the brother’s fault for falling out, and then the mother had to jump out to save him? Even then, it’s not anyone’s fault the carriage shook like that, if there’s anyone to blame, it’s the carriage!
Aunty Lali
What happened! What happened! I’m interested!
ASENA
Even her brother seems like a disgusting person.
ASENA
I really hate it when there is a child involved ? It feels like my heart is about to explode. *Shadow queen flashbacks*
athena
please, author. make her husband is a good husband ??? at least the one who won’t beat her up and cheat on her ???
digitalf33ls
I’m already loaded and ready to kill that damn “father” and whoever tries to stop me. Warning I won’t hesitate! https://media4.giphy.com/media/xCM0GuXe7bb7a/giphy.gif
Loveboi
It’s sad really. How sad and traumatized must she be to fall in love with a guy who just said “live your life, the dead is dead” kinda guy ? wow I wonder if her father took classes to be that terrible. ?
Loveboi
Somethings telling me that this marriage isn’t going to go well…
Loveboi
Somethings telling me that this marriage isn’t going to go well…
Loveboi
Oh come on just because your wife and child died doesn’t mean you just blame it on the remaining child who survived.
???_??_?_?????
and she live happy never after.Take note!Do.not.marry.with.someone.you.just.met.
???_??_?_?????
how is someones death her fault?if we will go with your logic then where were you at the time?its also your fault for not arriving more early.???
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Not the precious baby!somebody help!!!
Diamond #BlackLivesMatter
Then he cheated on her… bruh
i'd let athanasia kill me
i’m reserving judgment on the husband. he may have a 14 inch dick but until i see some good character traits i don’t like him
Valentina
this is gonna hurt
adhara
how tf is it her fault? she didn’t cause the accident, or push her mother in the way. her mother CHOSE to save her son. act mature
adhara
she’s so pretty ❤️ ok so i guess ‘el’ is her child and the black haired woman is the mistress
Hayoon
Did the mom and bro die
digitalf33ls
I hope not…her brother is so cute that be sad 🙁
Just__me ?
Another manhwa focusing on mental health. Kind of similar to ‘The Flower Dance and The Wind Song’. The fl is in a miserable and pathetic. Everyone around her are hateful creatures. Will she be able to find happiness??
Dilch
Oh, I really like The Flower Dance and The Wind Song! I really love this genre but sometimes I wonder if I’m just torturing myself by getting mad at the unfairness of their lives and crying for the characters every chapter lol
Appy
Well than do u mean it is like demsal in distress
Just__me ?
Not exactly… It’s just the people around her don’t understand her. For some reason, her father calls her cursed and so do other people think. She is just someone who wants love ? and I would not say she is weak like a damsel in distress.
Just__me ?
The husband doesn’t look later ke a good person either. ?
Ohoho
The art is beautiful and the story is good. At the very start, it’s interesting to read. In the beginning chapters, it tells us that we should live and move on. We should not think on how people think about us. It’ll affect our mental growth so we shouldn’t be pessimistic and instead think of a way how to handle situations. I can tell that her father is a stupid person. Her brother didn’t helped her. Her husband only treated her as an invisible person. The men around her are all pathetic as*#&$@%.
Webo.cum
Art is good?
Dude, whats up with the forehead????
Ohoho
It’s kinda new so it’s normal to say it’s not good. Well i kinda like it cuz it’s unique than the usual art i knew in manhwas.
Webo.cum
Well…alright?
Ohoho
So her father and her husband vented their anger to her. She’s innocent yet she’s receiving such treatment. She deserves better and happy life. She was living her life miserably till the end.
Valentina
i hate it when their grief becomes something that confides them and doesn’t let them move on. Let the poor girl live
Ohoho
The fact that her father continuously pointing the fault at her makes my blood boil. He’s venting and using her as the fault of what happened. So basically, when his wife died, the means of loving his own child disappeared. What a stupid father he is.
I Live 4 Manhwa?
we can see that her father only love her mother and not her wife’s child
?tsk tsk anna oop-
I wanna smack her father so muchh!! Like why are you taking out your anger on her! Its not her fault the mother died! And she was still a child. When it happend so ofcourse she couldn’t do anything cause she was also scared and her mother died trying to protect her littles brother! LIKE ARGHHH (-᷅ ^ -᷄๑)
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C’mon Dad jzt act like an adult,
It’s an accident that is nothing to do with her,
Her mother done her duty to protect her child and died sadly,
if she is an cursed child means already something bad must be happened in past (childhood) but why suddenly now her curse is working- nice excuse to blame her?
Ultimo
ikr…
Unknown_Female_lead
Am I the only one who doesn’t understand this chap?
lisa
is elle the black hair/mistress?? confusion ?
Hayoon
I think el is her baby
lisa
how is it the FL fault that her mother died protecting her own SON like tf. these types of stories make me mad but it also interesting ugh
Nelly
I want to slap that father of hers…ughh so in conclusion…the now husband was kinda forced into marrying her so he’s gonna take it out on her and make her life miserable even tho she only wanted to marry him because he was the light in her already miserable life?? …. alright, time to bring the tissues, I’m gonna go find the novel…
SerialEater
Lets not conclude something first you’re being presumptious about the husband maybe he is a decent guy after all. Everyone has their own reasons.
Chieno
You feel this going to be a “cold missunderstood” type of deal? If we take into consideration her child was “taken” from her by another woman, then he might’ve had a mistress, so his view might not be far from the true tale. Well, it’s only 3 chapters and she died once already lol, we’ll just have to wait and see.
SerialEater
Well, some male lead are decent but overshadowed by the female lead’s one sided view of their character and they have their own reasons for making those decisions. We can’t really judge someone without knowing what the entire situation on their behalf it is also applicable in real life some people are not what they seem to be. I’m not defending his actions but what i’m saying is that we should atleast look into what his situation as well before making the final verdict.
Nelly
Well I just read the first 3 chapters of the novel and so far that man was a jerk to her, the manhwa simplified it but…yeah he was awful.
1. refuses to even acknowledge her
2. only “visits her” once a month because he has to in order to get an heir
3. as soon as the baby is conceived he stops seeing her
4. moves his past fiancée (guessing his now mistress) into the mansion
5. oh yeah I forgot, he kicked her out of the mansion and she lives in a cold tower by herself.
6. she is so traumatized that she thinks she can’t touch her baby cause her hands are dirty, so the “lovely” husbands takes her child from her and gives it to his mistress to raise.
I could go on, but so far…he’s a jerk.
Yukiri
Wooooow I’m shoooook. Now I’m mad!
SerialEater
Atleast, i gave him a chance but we don’t know why he did what he did yet so the conclusion is not yet there. I’m not one to judge anyone just cause of their actions and i’m also not defending him since he deserve some punishment for his actions what i’m saying is that we should also see what his point of view if he is really illogical and unreasonable then he is a piece of trash that should be thrown away but for now we can’t judge someone based on her point of view.
Nelly
But his point of view doesn’t matter? Like, unless he was being mind controlled and did all those things by force I don’t see how we can redeem his actions. He was unnecessary cruel to her, to the point that she DIED because of his neglect. So whatever “point of view” he has, he’s still an a*hole.
Parth Deshmukh
But the synopsis said that her husband didn’t like her in her first life.
AkosiShan Sollag
Agree.. ? if the husband loves her she didnt die in the first timeline .
SerialEater
Well, it is also same with the other manwha where readers viewed the male lead as some horrible human being but ended up he has a reason to be that way and why he made those decisions.
I’m not gonna mention the manwha since for me it seems disrespectful to some authors, artists and translation group to compare them.
For now, it is a one-sided view of the female lead and again i’m not defending him i’m just not gonna judge him since his own point of view is still not been seen.
AkosiShan Sollag
I read chap 10-20 and still dont understand his reason. ? i think the other girl manipulate him.
Shai
I don’t think she forced the husband. The husband might have actually approached her and marry her. Probably because of title and wealth. If he doesn’t really love her and married her for such reasons then it is possible for him to actually have a mistress. That is, if the black haired girl that El is hugging is a mistress.
Nelly
Was that her mom holding her little brother? They look exactly the same ?? I am confusion
Wafa
Ah I see…
But Duke, in that accident, you could’ve lost all three of them . Yet your children are still alive. Shouldn’t that give you strength or at least, consider them the treasure that your wife entrusted you with.. come on how can you blame your child??
Wafa
I don’t understand . Who is the one holding the child?
Shirin shaikh
I think it’s fl’s mom.